Pacquiao is multi dimensional, JMM is one dimensional

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  • labaria
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    #21
    Originally posted by hectari
    Juan Manuel Marquez cannot fight going forward, he sucks with pressing fights, he also never blocks punches he only has one mode to constantly back up and fight with the matador style using three punch combos to keep you back, he never clinches either. Just side step three punch counter.

    Marco Antonio Barrera and Erik Morales had more dimensions than Marquez.

    Pacman is called a one dimensional boxer because he had tough fights with Marquez. Well Pacman is the Bull to Marquez Matador, just because one fighter has someones number doesn't mean that fighter is one dimensional.

    Marquez had trouble with slick black fighters like Floyd and Bradley, Pacman beat Bradley and this was a half interested pacman who wasn't even top shape. Pacman was able to compete with the speed of Bradley and not get hit either people keep saying pacman has no defense but he looked pretty good in that fight and he wasn't even trying. Pacman has the basic Flaws like lunging, and dropping his hands, but he still has more tricks and ways to fight opponents than Marquez does. All Marquez can do is hope for a super aggressive guy so he can counter punch him while stepping back.

    Ruslan did better than Marquez because in order to have a shot with Bradley you have to apply pressure with him, does that mean Ruslan is better than Marquez? nope but they are both one dimensional guys, Ruslan only can press a fight, he can't box circles or counter off the back foot, just like JMM cannot pressure fight he can only box off the back foot.

    Pacman is not a shoulder roll slickster but he has shown more dimensions than Marquez, the racist Floyd fans like to point out that pacman stumbles and lunges once in a while, and never give credit to his unorthodox moves but he has shown that he can box and brawl and pressure fight and box off the back foot.

    Pacman boxed circles around David Diaz and Oscar, he out brawled Margarito and boxed him on the back foot with counter punches. I have only seen Marquez box off the back foot and never seen him pressure fight.

    Pacmans Attention Deficit Disorder and super furious style, it makes him abandon a patient game plan and this is how he loses but he has show he can be patient like when he fought Oscar, he boxed him beautifully.
    Great analysis and excellent post!

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    • hectari
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      #22
      Originally posted by harwri008
      Pacquiao is one dimensional. Marquez is two dimensional. Bradley is three dimensional. Mayweather is muliti dimensional.

      1. Marquez beat Pacquiao.

      2. Bradley beat Marquez.

      3. Mayweather beat all three.

      It's checkers not chess... Really it is.
      Another floyd fanboy

      With a triangle theory.

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      • HeroBando
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        #23
        Originally posted by harwri008
        Pacquiao is one dimensional. Marquez is two dimensional. Bradley is three dimensional. Mayweather is muliti dimensional.

        1. Marquez beat Pacquiao.

        2. Bradley beat Marquez.

        3. Mayweather beat all three.

        It's checkers not chess... Really it is.
        That's what's so special about Pac, his 1 dimension routed Bradley's 3 in the ring, and left JMM's 2 in the dust in the career stakes.

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        • C.Y.
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          #24
          So Pacquiao beats Zombie De La Hoya and David Diaz and all the sudden he is a multi dimensional threat and can box circles around people? He should of used his multi dimensional skills to cut the ring off a 40 year old Mosley

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          • SlySlickSmooth
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            #25
            Originally posted by C.Y.
            So Pacquiao beats Zombie De La Hoya and David Diaz and all the sudden he is a multi dimensional threat and can box circles around people? He should of used his multi dimensional skills to cut the ring off a 40 year old Mosley
            Pac's style is more of a really aggressive dancer boxer, except he's at his best when the fight is at mid-range aka the danger/cautious circle.

            Of course he does showcases just the straight forward style a lot, but he has shown to the above style imo.

            The southpaws main weapon are it's angles and the left hand, in which Pac uses to his/its best ability in his style.

            As Rigo does, but in not a offensive way, but in a defensive way..
            Last edited by SlySlickSmooth; 10-13-2013, 02:51 AM.

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            • rr00676
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              #26
              Originally posted by C.Y.
              So Pacquiao beats Zombie De La Hoya and David Diaz and all the sudden he is a multi dimensional threat and can box circles around people? He should of used his multi dimensional skills to cut the ring off a 40 year old Mosley
              If his agenda were to hurt Mosley I think he would've...

              Somewhere around the 20th time they touched gloves I got impression neither wanted a violent affair

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                #27
                Originally posted by C.Y.
                So Pacquiao beats Zombie De La Hoya and David Diaz and all the sudden he is a multi dimensional threat and can box circles around people? He should of used his multi dimensional skills to cut the ring off a 40 year old Mosley
                Lets see: he won 12 rounds, dropped Mosley and had him running. Canelo won 12, didn't drop him or send him running. Floyd won 11, got hurt bad, didn't drop him or send him running. Just how better was he supposed to do vs Mosley?

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                • hectari
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by C.Y.
                  So Pacquiao beats Zombie De La Hoya and David Diaz and all the sudden he is a multi dimensional threat and can box circles around people? He should of used his multi dimensional skills to cut the ring off a 40 year old Mosley
                  He used boxing in those fights but you obviously don't study fights so you have no clue how to study fights you just say zombie de la hoya but study the style Pac used to beat zombie de la hoya he out boxed him and wasn't getting careless. Mosley ran, that wasn't even his style so they never prepared for that. Mosley was always known has a boxer puncher or power boxer who would go toe to toe.

                  Like I said its all up to Pacmans mind set, he was mainly just fighting for a check now.

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                  • samouraļ
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by harwri008
                    Pacquiao is one dimensional. Marquez is two dimensional. Bradley is three dimensional. Mayweather is muliti dimensional.

                    1. Marquez beat Pacquiao.

                    2. Bradley beat Marquez.

                    3. Mayweather beat all three.

                    It's checkers not chess... Really it is.
                    Tonight of all nights is definitely not the time for a triangle theory.

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                    • hectari
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by chito
                      pac-bradley 2
                      cotto-bradley or
                      pbf-bradley

                      these are the fights im interested in getting made
                      If Cotto can get a title at 154 I would love to see Bradley go up one more division he used to box in the ams in the 150 weight class.

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