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  • citolindo
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    #71
    Originally posted by Triumph 916
    That's besides the point & thats your bias opinion...if Floyd fights a 147lb ESPN fighter he would stop them! Like I said, be happy for Cotto but apply the same rules across the board for every top fighter...the thought of Floyd fighting Amir Khan makes you guys mad but people are praising the stoppage of a ESPN fighter.
    Im not madd if floyd fights amir, I mean you cant compare floyd fighting him to cotto fight delvin, cotto lost his last 2 fights where as mayweather should be fighting the best fighters, I wanna see him fight amir, would like to see if he can get a knockout... Just give credit to cotto caus Im sure you didnt think he would win the way he did.

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    • Da Boxer
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      #72
      Originally posted by MrRolltide91
      I honestly think that's the only way floyd would give cotto a rematch.
      Because he (FMJr.) does not have the balz to go up and fight Maravilla himself so...he has to wait to see if Miguel will beat him so he could try and go after Miguel.

      What he does not know is that vintage style Cotto COULD give Floyd a surprise and pull the win.

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      • HanzGruber
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        #73
        Why are people so mad? He's 100% right. Here's video of it. Delvin already for beat by Austin trout before cotto did

        http://********/iacrmWdVl0Q

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        • brick wall
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          #74
          Originally posted by Reloaded
          You compared the merit of each , and now to top it off you say the 152 makes Canelo close to Delvin , yeah right .

          Its great to see Cotto back in the picture but it was Jennings Gomez stuff and people need to keep their hats on .

          i was comparing the hype they got after their fight you idiot not the quality of opponent. they both fought inferior opponents but floyd for sure got more hype with it because of floyd fanboys like you. you're so obsessed with floyd that you want all the limelight for him.

          you hyped floyd's win like crazy but now you don't want to see cotto's fans to hype his win against rodriquez.

          and yes, catchweight cheapens everything about the fight. it cheapens the quality of opposition and the quality of win. it cheapened the wins of all fighters who had catchweight before so what makes it different for floyd?

          when floyd dragged canelo down to a catchweight, he also lowered canelo's quality as an opponent.

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          • FeFist
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            #75
            Originally posted by Tommy Gun
            And Floyd didnt need you to fight the way he been fighting now???? Go smoke some crack Sr.
            Floyd didn't need his dad to fight the way he is fighting now? You mean the man who contributed to his genetics and trained him from birth?

            Floyd Sr. is correct, and if I was Cotto I would be a bit annoyed about Roach taking the majority of credit. He beat Rodriguez, not an A level fighter shit not even some B or C level fighter, but Delvin Rodriguez.

            Cotto is one of my favourite fighters but if he looked anything less than dominant in this match up, he would have to start thinking about retirement.

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            • citolindo
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              #76
              Originally posted by FeFist
              Floyd didn't need his dad to fight the way he is fighting now? You mean the man who contributed to his genetics and trained him from birth?

              Floyd Sr. is correct, and if I was Cotto I would be a bit annoyed about Roach taking the majority of credit. He beat Rodriguez, not an A level fighter shit not even some B or C level fighter, but Delvin Rodriguez.

              Cotto is one of my favourite fighters but if he looked anything less than dominant in this match up, he would have to start thinking about retirement.
              How do you feel delvin rodriguez ranks in caliber compare to yuri foreman and the ricardo mayorga that cotto fought?

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              • Reloaded
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                #77
                Originally posted by brick wall
                i was comparing the hype they got after their fight you idiot not the quality of opponent. they both fought inferior opponents but floyd for sure got more hype with it because of floyd fanboys like you. you're so obsessed with floyd that you want all the limelight for him.

                you hyped floyd's win like crazy but now you don't want to see cotto's fans to hype his win against rodriquez.

                and yes, catchweight cheapens everything about the fight. it cheapens the quality of opposition and the quality of win. it cheapened the wins of all fighters who had catchweight before so what makes it different for floyd?

                when floyd dragged canelo down to a catchweight, he also lowered canelo's quality as an opponent.
                See this is where your hating over rides logic , Canelo was a dual unbeaten WC who beat Trout who beat Cotto and Floyd gave him 18 pounds on the night , this is not inferior opponents , Rodriguez Gomez and Jennings who are smaller than Cotto is inferior opponents .

                Did you say CWs cheapens Mannys fights ?

                Did you say CWs lowered the quality of Mannys opponents ?

                Do you realize Margo is bigger than Canelo but was forced to lose twice as much as Canelo had to lose , what did you have to say about that fight .

                CWs are a neither here nor there until " after " the fight , then is the only true time you can evaluate a CW , if a fighter is drained by a CW and its easy to see in the fight , then yes it cheapens any fight ; but if it had little effect on the fighter then its a fair win , sometimes it can benefit a fighter, people need to judge the effect of a CW , fanboys just judge CWs depending whos name they are connected to .

                I dont like CWs because they add a built in excuse into a fight , the losers will always say it was the CW some are valid some are not , I look at the fight then decide .

                And I would have rather seen Floyd at 154 with Canelo than the CW .

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                • Zeus Molecules
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by brick wall
                  i was comparing the hype they got after their fight you idiot not the quality of opponent. they both fought inferior opponents but floyd for sure got more hype with it because of floyd fanboys like you. you're so obsessed with floyd that you want all the limelight for him.

                  you hyped floyd's win like crazy but now you don't want to see cotto's fans to hype his win against rodriquez.

                  and yes, catchweight cheapens everything about the fight. it cheapens the quality of opposition and the quality of win. it cheapened the wins of all fighters who had catchweight before so what makes it different for floyd?

                  when floyd dragged canelo down to a catchweight, he also lowered canelo's quality as an opponent.
                  I really don't see how a 2 pound catchweight cheapens anything when fighters don't even have to be at the weight limit on fight night. Didn't Canelo agree to the catchweight? Didn't Canelo brag about how the catch-weight was going to make him better because he would be training better and get a nutrionist for the first time? Didn't Mr. Goldenboy himself say Canelo would be even more dangerous and he had the blueprint? Wasn't Canelo destroying sparring partners and killing the heavybags leading up to the fight because he was in his best camp ever? Weren't all the fanboys screaming in agreement with Canelo? The moment he loses..... he was weight drained.......

                  Canelo came in for a Super Welterweight fight weighing in as a Super Middleweight and he was weight drained? Hahaha kick rocks

                  No fighter has any claim against being weight drained in this day and age when they agreed to fight and don't have to be at that weight on the day of the fight. Not Canelo for his Mayweather fight, not De La Hoya for his Pacquaio fight, not Cotto for his Pacquaio. They agreed to the stipulations end of story.

                  Ok, so back to Cotto. He looked good, but like Floyd said it was against a nobody was in there to make him look good. That's what a tuneup fight is. You get the kinks out and showcase to the fans why they need to watching you. The only time tuneups don't end this way are when the "A" fighter overlooks the fight and doesn't prepare (see Chavez Jr).
                  Last edited by Zeus Molecules; 10-09-2013, 06:37 PM. Reason: Fixed spelling error

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                  • PRBOXINGCOTTO
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                    #79
                    Sr never gives cotto props he's just a grumpy old crackhead ppl thought Rodriguez would give cotto problems and he didn't ppl thought Rodriguez wouldn't get knocked out so early which he did cotto looked good can he do this type of performance against top level yes will he yes cotto can beat Canelo and Martinez if cotto can go to the body against Floyd and bust him up again and stay active for 12 rounds then yes cotto will beat Floyd in a rematch sr acting like Floyd won a easy fight he didn't

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                    • KiloTeague
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                      #80
                      I don't have a lot of respect for Roach, but I think that he can help Cotto.


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