I cant remember a bigger hype drop than lucas mattyhysee

[whitealltrac]

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Lucas who???

[radioraheem]

I suspect the damage to the bone was done in the ensuing rounds since Matthysse could no longer see the punches coming.

The real mystery is the level of swelling, some have suggested it may have been linked to a prior injury in the Vivian Harris fight. Sounds like a reasonable hypothesis.

I'd prefer it if you didn't class me as part of the 'you guys', I called this a 50-50 fight. I merely have my opinions on the fight. Danny deserved to win but the eye injury changed the fight and was unfortunate and fortunate in equal measure.

Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

Someone could argue the same thing for Andre Berto when he fought Robert Guerrero. Berto's eye swelled super fast due either a punch or what some argue was a thumb to the eye. That changed the momentum quite a bit, not to even talk about the punching while holding the head. But I never seen you guys making the same excuse for Berto's loss to Guerrero due to his crazy eye swell.

[JDezi4]

Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

Someone could argue the same thing for Andre Berto when he fought Robert Guerrero. Berto's eye swelled super fast due either a punch or what some argue was a thumb to the eye. That changed the momentum quite a bit, not to even talk about the punching while holding the head. But I never seen you guys making the same excuse for Berto's loss to Guerrero due to his crazy eye swell.

I guess I'll just go around and call all you misinformed people out...

The argument is not about the outcome of the fight, its about Garcia supposedly being the superior fighter... All we know from the fight is that he is definitely better than a Matthysse cyclops... Now how about a 2 eyed Matthysse? In my opinion, 5-1 first 6 rounds says he's not...

[Weebler I]

Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

Someone could argue the same thing for Andre Berto when he fought Robert Guerrero. Berto's eye swelled super fast due either a punch or what some argue was a thumb to the eye. That changed the momentum quite a bit, not to even talk about the punching while holding the head. But I never seen you guys making the same excuse for Berto's loss to Guerrero due to his crazy eye swell.

For my part, I've never watched that fight.

I will say this though, Guerrero v Berto is a lower level fight compared to determining who the best fighter is in the division. This was a huge fight for hardcore boxing fans, and in terms of the division it's natural that it would draw more comment and analysis.

[Mr. Philadel]

I'd feel more embarrassed if everyone that is currently riding the Garcia high-train wasn't already **** riding him prior to the fight...

Now tell me, what was you're prediction on how the fight would go? Were you one of those "GARSH" (which was rendered useless by Matthyss's defense prior to the swelling, and then by Matthysse' chin afterward."

Or were u one of those people that vaguely left it at "Garcia by Dec" cause u didn't exactly know how the fight would go, you just didn't want the "over-hyped" Matthysse to win?

I've been a Swift fan for awhile.....way before the Lucas fight!!

I made my prediction in the master thread....the fight played out the way I expected it to......go to the thread and investigate if you think otherwise!!

I predicted Swift wouldn't start getting to Lucas until around the 3rd round by countering to the body which would make Lucas less confident as the fight went on....I predicted that Lucas would get dropped in round 5 but that didn't happen till round 11....I predicted Angel would give Swift a earful between rounds that would spark Swift....I thought that would come after round 4 before round 5....it came after round 6 before round 7 with a slap

I predicted Swift would dominate the second half of the fight by countering....minor stumbles in the last 2 rounds wouldn't stop what everybody would see to be the obvious....Swift by UD

Now do the investigation and see if I'm being real with you...

[radioraheem]

I guess I'll just go around and call all you misinformed people out...

The argument is not about the outcome of the fight, its about Garcia supposedly being the superior fighter... All we know from the fight is that he is definitely better than a Matthysse cyclops... Now how about a 2 eyed Matthysse? In my opinion, 5-1 first 6 rounds says he's not...

A lot of the biased Matthysse fans seem to score the first half of the fight for Matthysse. But for many others, the fight was much more close in the first half. He lost, plain and simple. The better fighter won that night -- Garcia!

[GRUSTLER]

I suspect the damage to the bone was done in the ensuing rounds since Matthysse could no longer see the punches coming.

The real mystery is the level of swelling, some have suggested it may have been linked to a prior injury in the Vivian Harris fight. Sounds like a reasonable hypothesis.

I'd prefer it if you didn't class me as part of the 'you guys', I called this a 50-50 fight. I merely have my opinions on the fight. Danny deserved to win but the eye injury changed the fight and was unfortunate and fortunate in equal measure.

I have no issues or quarrels with you because we had our back and forth and my Posts were proven to be right and you didn't debate it but to say Matthysse eye had everything to do with his loss is not fair and wrong because if he was as good as his fans made him our to be or as dominant a Punchers as Prior claimed then he would have manhandled Garcia considering majority of Lucas fans said that Garcia had no Chance and was inferior in every way to Matthysse so no, I will not cosign or accept that the eye made the difference. It is a lame cop out excuse that not even Lucas Matthysse is using as to why he lost so his fans who are using that as an excuse are lame, heart broken band wagoners and that goes for whoever. Just give Garcia his props and Keep it moving because the fight is still a L for Lucas and a W for Garcia.

[GRUSTLER]

A picture that took place seconds after Matthysse got tangled in the ropes... That's why I asked for a vid, but I expected as much since non exist cause Garcia never hurt him

And I like how facts aren't fact just becuz the outcome was wrong... Everything I said would happen happened other than the outcome of the fight, and yet somehow none of them are facts?

That's why I'm fucking your mom... So she'll actually have a smart kid she can be proud of

Ok, so if Matthysse was never hurt during the fight then why the hell did he go to the Hospital right after instead of the post fight presser? Garcia was the fighter who was there and not hurt. He didn't have a scratch on his face, so that alone proves that you were wrong about everything so what the hell do you continue to Keep boasting about? You compared These two fighters and was absolutely wrong but yet you act like you were right? You're a funny dude for real AND how could you say that the fight doesn't prove Garcia to be the better fighter when that was what the fight was about?

To prove who was the better of the two at 140? You have so many embarrassing quotes and predictions regarding this match up that it is unbelievable how confident and sure you are of being a JACK ASS. You should have some pride and self respect like Dominibox. Dude talked nuff $#!t about Garcia and leading up to the fight but when charged he just took the L and admitted it. Try doing that instead of looking like a dumb ass moron. If you were so right with Facts then why did you delete your quotes I posted on your profile page? Facts are Facts and if they are wrong then it is not a fact because it wasn't and hasn't be proven you JACK ASS. Matthysse did not prove that he was the superior fighter between the two. Stop embarrassing yourself.

[Weebler I]

I have no issues or quarrels with you because we had our back and forth and my Posts were proven to be right and you didn't debate it but to say Matthysse eye had everything to do with his loss is not fair and wrong because if he was as good as his fans made him our to be or as dominant a Punchers as Prior claimed then he would have manhandled Garcia considering majority of Lucas fans said that Garcia had no Chance and was inferior in every way to Matthysse so no, I will not cosign or accept that the eye made the difference.

I didn't feel the eye was the key determinant until I re-watched the fight. There's a definite swing in momentum when that occurred.

Did it have everything to do with it? not everything, Danny also fought very well and over 12 rounds he deserved to win.

As for the Lucas fans who thought he would KO and manhandle Danny, I wasn't one of them. In fact, I wasn't even a Matthysse fan before this fight. I had it 50-50 going in.

[JDezi4]

A lot of the biased Matthysse fans seem to score the first half of the fight for Matthysse. But for many others, the fight was much more close in the first half. He lost, plain and simple. The better fighter won that night -- Garcia!

Close... There's an argument... I never said it wasn't close, but 5-1 is the scorecard I came up with... As a Garcia fan u probably didn't even score the fight until the swelling happened