How close was Bradley v Pacquiao?

[brickcityboxing]

Except your logic is flawed. Did you bother to see the odds on the fight? Lucas was the favorite, but no way was he close to the odds Pacquaio had over Bradley. It was probably something like 35-65 for Lucas, that is hardly an "extreme minority" for Garcia, so don't exaggerate.

I'll repeat, 121 out of 122 scored the fight for Pacquaio, have you ever seen a fighter lose with everyone having him winning? Or at least 99.7%?

I did see the odds on the fight cause I won money on it !!!... Bradley was something like +325 and Danny was somewhere around +250 ... What's your point ?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Same principal though. If I can state my case for why Bradley won better than one other person can for why he didn't then what does it matter if 100 people feel the same way ? If you eliminate the people who dksab, the people who only saw the fight once with lampley in their ears all night, the PAC - tards, etc... It's probably a lot less than 100 anyway.

It's not the same principal. One has actual evidence. It's shared experience of a large number of people. The other is nothing more than a guess of what might happen

A list was posted with several respected people who cover the sport who all scored it for Pacquaio.

[radioraheem]

They've scurried away like the Iguanas in this video

[BIG GUNZ]

I had it 8-4 both times I've watched it. Pacquiao clearly won. There's absolutely no way Bradley won more than 4 rounds. Bradley knows deep down that he lost the fight, but he can't admit to it because he's a fighter. Rarely do you see any fighters admit they think they lost when they get the win on judges scorecards. He didn't want to face Pacquiao again at the moment because he knows what he'd be in for again. So he wants to beat the guy that Pacquiao cleanly lost to first, than take the Pacquiao fight after.

[brickcityboxing]

you're more ****** than i thought.

you can't compare opinions about things that's yet to happen with opinions for things that's already done.

i was talking about facts but you're talking about predictions...big difference you moron.

Why not ? What you said was if you're "only 1 or 2 people who believe something and 100 other people think otherwise then there is something wrong with you". Your words not mine. Doesn't matter if it didn't happen yet or already did. You are basing your argument on the "fact" that if you are in the extreme minority you are wrong. Because 100 other people think a certain way it must be true. I never believed in Santa Clause. By your logic I would've been wrong in 2nd grade.

[Guest]

Again, I could maybe see 6 rounds for Bradley, including winning the 1st easily, but it's that 7th round I can't find for him under any circumstances.

I'll have to see it again... I've actually watched that round three times and ISTR didn't have a problem giving it to Bradley.

I remember in one of the later rounds the HBO team talk about a punch of Pac's that misses and how it would have ended the fight had it connected. WTF??? So the guy MISSES and you praise him for it? Huh?

[brickcityboxing]

It's not the same principal. One has actual evidence. It's shared experience of a large number of people. The other is nothing more than a guess of what might happen

A list was posted with several respected people who cover the sport who all scored it for Pacquaio.

What evidence ? Can you 100% without a shadow of a doubt say that Pacquiao won rounds 1 and 2 ? How about 9-12 .. What about 7-8 ?.. Chris Mannix (sports illustrated) and Brian Kenny had it for Bradley did they lose their respect after that fight... You're getting to caught up in wether it was a prediction or something that already happened. The point I was trying to make is that holding a belief that only a small minority share doesn't automatically make you wrong or right... That's it. If I were to convince 1 of those 100 that Bradley had won does that make me right ? Not to 99 other people but to 1 person it does... If I were to convince one of Lucas followers why Danny would win and he converted to the church of Garcia and Danny got ko'd does that make me right ? Obviously not... It's all subjective. The fact more people believe something has no bearing on who is closer to the truth..

[Doctor_Tenma]

What evidence ? Can you 100% without a shadow of a doubt say that Pacquiao won rounds 1 and 2 ? How about 9-12 .. What about 7-8 ?.. Chris Mannix (sports illustrated) and Brian Kenny had it for Bradley did they lose their respect after that fight... You're getting to caught up in wether it was a prediction or something that already happened. The point I was trying to make is that holding a belief that only a small minority share doesn't automatically make you wrong or right... That's it. If I were to convince 1 of those 100 that Bradley had won does that make me right ? Not to 99 other people but to 1 person it does... If I were to convince one of Lucas followers why Danny would win and he converted to the church of Garcia and Danny got ko'd does that make me right ? Obviously not... It's all subjective. The fact more people believe something has no bearing on who is closer to the truth..

It's more like people are fooling themselves into thinking Pacquiao won that many decisive rounds when he won very few decisive ones. There are even rounds I felt Pacquiao won, that those who had it for Manny gave to Bradley, I've been seeing that a lot as well. What can't be disputed in my honest opinion is rounds 1,2,10,11,12...especially the last 3 rounds. Round 7 was a close but clear round for Bradley in my opinion.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

What evidence ? Can you 100% without a shadow of a doubt say that Pacquiao won rounds 1 and 2 ? How about 9-12 .. What about 7-8 ?.. Chris Mannix (sports illustrated) and Brian Kenny had it for Bradley did they lose their respect after that fight... You're getting to caught up in wether it was a prediction or something that already happened. The point I was trying to make is that holding a belief that only a small minority share doesn't automatically make you wrong or right... That's it. If I were to convince 1 of those 100 that Bradley had won does that make me right ? Not to 99 other people but to 1 person it does... If I were to convince one of Lucas followers why Danny would win and he converted to the church of Garcia and Danny got ko'd does that make me right ? Obviously not... It's all subjective. The fact more people believe something has no bearing on who is closer to the truth..

The evidence of the fight taking place. Garcia vs Matthysse hadn't taken place. You can't compare predictions to fights which have already happened.

There'll always be a minority of hipsters who try to go against the grain just to try to be cool

[brickcityboxing]

It's more like people are fooling themselves into thinking Pacquiao won that many decisive rounds when he won very few decisive ones. There are even rounds I felt Pacquiao won, that those who had it for Manny gave to Bradley, I've been seeing that a lot as well. What can't be disputed in my honest opinion is rounds 1,2,10,11,12...especially the last 3 rounds. Round 7 was a close but clear round for Bradley in my opinion.

That would actually be a pretty good experiment...ask 3 different people who thought pacquiao dominated what rounds they thought Bradley won and when you get the results show them 7 different rounds between the 3 of them they had Bradley winning... And then let them argue it out.