How close was Bradley v Pacquiao?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Ok ... Ill try to explain to you. Ready ? Ok here we go. You said "there's nothing wrong with being in the minority but if your only like 1-2 out of 100 that believes something then something is wrong with you"

To which I responded. "For every 100 people who picked Mathysse to destroy Garcia 1or 2 picked Danny to outbox Lucas ... Nothing was wrong with them."

The people who believe Bradley won are in the extreme minority.
The people who believed Danny would win were also in the same group.
Which group of people turned out to be right ?

Hope you're still with me....

Which brings me to my point. Sometimes people who don't know **** about boxing listen to other people's opinion who also don't know **** and use that flawed logic to form their own opinion. Before you know it, it trickles down and what you get is a mob mentality . Whenever someone comes up with a different way of seeing things or a different idea the "mob" will brush it to the side. They are comfortable with their own ignorance.

Well one is a prediction and the other is seeing something that's already happened with their own eyes. Slightly different.

[bojangles1987]

Ok ... Ill try to explain to you. Ready ? Ok here we go. You said "there's nothing wrong with being in the minority but if your only like 1-2 out of 100 that believes something then something is wrong with you"

To which I responded. "For every 100 people who picked Mathysse to destroy Garcia 1or 2 picked Danny to outbox Lucas ... Nothing was wrong with them."

The people who believe Bradley won are in the extreme minority.
The people who believed Danny would win were also in the same group.
Which group of people turned out to be right ?

Hope you're still with me....

Which brings me to my point. Sometimes people who don't know **** about boxing listen to other people's opinion who also don't know **** and use that flawed logic to form their own opinion. Before you know it, it trickles down and what you get is a mob mentality . Whenever someone comes up with a different way of seeing things or a different idea the "mob" will brush it to the side. They are comfortable with their own ignorance.

I understand what you're saying, but the opinion didn't become this overwhelming for Pacquiao after a long time. It was immediate. Opinion has been kinder to Bradley over time as people have found ways to convince themselves he might have won when he didn't.

[-PBP-]

It's funny how HBO changed their tune. Bradley's Greatest Hits painted a much different picture then what they called on fight night.

[Johnny2x2x]

Rewatched this fight with conflicting memories. One was that Pacquaio had dominated, the other was that it was a tedious fight I didn't want to watch again.

HUH? Those two don't add up.

Seeing it again, Ping Ping's work rate was exceptionally low for him. Even though he was generally able to do what he wanted with Bradley, he was only working for around a minute a round, sometimes less. Bradley landing six jabs isn't amazing, but if that's all that's happening, he's winning the round by default.

It didn't help the outrageous HBO commentary, which talked about everything Pac did and nothing in reverse, especially the virtual fellating of Max Keller****.


"And Manny PACQUIAO just WINKED at ME, JIM!!"

Yeah, Max... because the judges scoring the fight score it on winks.

Even when the guy missed, they cheered it. And I was under the impression that Bradley was rocked more than he was.... in retrospect, we now know he'll carry on firing back, even when totally KTFO.

Take a look, for example, at the first round... **** all happens, and Ping Ping is frequently off-balance and misses... he lands three decent shots in the last fifteen seconds, but that's all, and Jim calls them "booms", as if the fight is being commented on by a six-year-old.

It's by no means a performance where Bradley wins seven rounds by domination. But it's certainly a performance where you could argue he nicks seven rounds by workrate alone.

Couldn't agree more, the announcers were beyond awful. I still thought Pacquaio won, but Bradley did a lot of good work in that fight. He was scoring with a lot of punches and Pacquaio took a lot of time off in rounds.

I also found the announcers saying "Pacquaio hits him with harder punches." How do they know what punch was harder? They aren't in the ring. I saw Bradley snapping Pacquaio's head back quite often too. Just because Pacquaio has a rep of hitting harder doesn't mean I should assume he was in this fight.

Again, I could maybe see 6 rounds for Bradley, including winning the 1st easily, but it's that 7th round I can't find for him under any circumstances.

[brickcityboxing]

Well one is a prediction and the other is seeing something that's already happened with their own eyes. Slightly different.

Same principal though. If I can state my case for why Bradley won better than one other person can for why he didn't then what does it matter if 100 people feel the same way ? If you eliminate the people who dksab, the people who only saw the fight once with lampley in their ears all night, the PAC - tards, etc... It's probably a lot less than 100 anyway.

[T18Z]

Ok ... Ill try to explain to you. Ready ? Ok here we go. You said "there's nothing wrong with being in the minority but if your only like 1-2 out of 100 that believes something then something is wrong with you"

To which I responded. "For every 100 people who picked Mathysse to destroy Garcia 1or 2 picked Danny to outbox Lucas ... Nothing was wrong with them."

The people who believe Bradley won are in the extreme minority.
The people who believed Danny would win were also in the same group.
Which group of people turned out to be right ?

Hope you're still with me....

Which brings me to my point. Sometimes people who don't know **** about boxing listen to other people's opinion who also don't know **** and use that flawed logic to form their own opinion. Before you know it, it trickles down and what you get is a mob mentality . Whenever someone comes up with a different way of seeing things or a different idea the "mob" will brush it to the side. They are comfortable with their own ignorance.

Except your logic is flawed. Did you bother to see the odds on the fight? Lucas was the favorite, but no way was he close to the odds Pacquaio had over Bradley. It was probably something like 35-65 for Lucas, that is hardly an "extreme minority" for Garcia, so don't exaggerate.

I'll repeat, 121 out of 122 scored the fight for Pacquaio, have you ever seen a fighter lose with everyone having him winning? Or at least 99.7%?

[brick wall]

Ok ... Ill try to explain to you. Ready ? Ok here we go. You said "there's nothing wrong with being in the minority but if your only like 1-2 out of 100 that believes something then something is wrong with you"

To which I responded. "For every 100 people who picked Mathysse to destroy Garcia 1or 2 picked Danny to outbox Lucas ... Nothing was wrong with them."

The people who believe Bradley won are in the extreme minority.
The people who believed Danny would win were also in the same group.
Which group of people turned out to be right ?

Hope you're still with me....

Which brings me to my point. Sometimes people who don't know **** about boxing listen to other people's opinion who also don't know **** and use that flawed logic to form their own opinion. Before you know it, it trickles down and what you get is a mob mentality . Whenever someone comes up with a different way of seeing things or a different idea the "mob" will brush it to the side. They are comfortable with their own ignorance.

you're more ****** than i thought.

you can't compare opinions about things that's yet to happen with opinions for things that's already done.

i was talking about facts but you're talking about predictions...big difference you moron.

[Doctor_Tenma]

The two judges that gave it to Bradley had it:

Ross: 2,5,7,8,10,11,12
Ford: 1,5,7,8,9,10,12

I don't see how you can score 5,7,8,9 for Bradley but it is what it is.

I agree with you, round 9 was a very close round but I gave it to Pacquiao. However I disagree with round 7, that was a Bradley round.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

It's funny how HBO changed their tune. Bradley's Greatest Hits painted a much different picture then what they called on fight night.

well, they DO have a ppv to promote

[brickcityboxing]

I understand what you're saying, but the opinion didn't become this overwhelming for Pacquiao after a long time. It was immediate. Opinion has been kinder to Bradley over time as people have found ways to convince themselves he might have won when he didn't.

It's one of those things it happens in sports. People blame the Red Sox losing the World Series on Bill Buckner making an error on a routine grounder to first. thats the story now . Kids in my generation tell it like it was "game 7 bottom of the ninth 2 outs redsox up by one ... And Buckner blew it " ... When in fact it was the seventh inning in game 5 or 6 and Boston blew the next two games in a row themselves. The initial reaction was the sox blew it but over time it became all about Buckner and whenever someone tries to correct them you get the old " yea but still if Buckner hasn't ...