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I think Floyd really wants to retire as the greatest ever
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Originally posted by Jc8804 View PostHe cant beat GGG,martinez,quillen,b hop,ward at 160
Floyd-- started at 130 up to 152.
Manny started where at? And finishhed how high?
How about this one-----
RJJ started at 154 and moved all the way up to 205
And was still out weighed 30 pounds at the weigh in
And 36 pounds on fight night.
Why is that roy can do it , but floyd cant .
Roy moved up 51 pounds to fight heavyweight and was still out weighed by 36 pounds
Thats like asking floyd to move up and fight ward or hop at 168 or 170
And roy still has 11 pounds over him, thats challenging your greatnessOriginally posted by MANIAC310 View PostHis best wins would be
Not when Pacquiao has
Morales x2
Barrera x2
Marquez x2
Cotto
Margarito
Hatton - Lineal
that alone destroys Floyd's resume
Morales beat him, then lost to him at a weight he didn't want to be at anymore
Barrera was past his prime
MArquez is arguably 4-0 vs Manny.
Cotto was at a catchweight
Margarito was at a catchweight
ODLH was at a weight Oscar had no business trying to make
Hatton? Please, he was finished and past it.
Diaz? Equivalent of Floyd beating Demarcus Corley
Manny used every advantage he could get when making fights, almost allof his big wins there was a weight issue for the opponent even if it wasn;t at a catchweight.
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When rating any fighter's resume the names themselves should be able to stand on their own. They should need no dressing e.g. #blah ranked blah, or former-lineal blah, or strong, young blah.
If the names are good enough, they will speak for themselves with out any help.
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He won't be known as the best ever, but he'll be considered an ATG. I know it's been said a billion times on here before, but he needed that Pacquiao fight back in 2008/2009 to see who truly was the greatest of this era. Floyd will definitely be in all top 50 lists years from now, but I don't think many would even put him in the top 10. He needed that Pacquiao win when it mattered the most.
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Originally posted by WilkinsOlajuwon View Posta fight at 154 would have been acceptable as would moving up to 160. you make it sound like its unheard of to move up like that for the best fighter. fact is, it most likely would have been a more competitive fight in mid 2012 that it would be in mid 2014
Just not top 30
Floyd fans avoid the roy jones facts
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Originally posted by MANIAC310 View PostHis best wins would be
Castillo in the rematch
Corrales
Hernadez
De la hoya - past it and coked out
Martinez?
past it Cotto?
Hatton at 147?
that's not a GOAT resume
Not when Pacquiao has
Morales x2
Barrera x2
Marquez x2
Cotto
Margarito
Hatton - Lineal
that alone destroys Floyd's resume
You have to be trolling lol.
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the fact is floyd will be more remembered first as a ducker and then a distant second his undefeated record.
he accomplished the 2nd due to his team business skills of matching him with cherry picked opponents. it really goes hand in hand.
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