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  • TOBYLEE1
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    #121
    Lucas has been classy with his loss so far. I hope to see him agains soon.

    People here complaining of the low blows when a lot of them were caused by Lucas pulling Garcia from behind his head. Don't hear nobody complaining about Lucas rabbit punching and comming in with his head low (there were a lot of headbutts in that fight).

    It was a fight and neither guy complained.

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    • SnakeVen0m
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      #122
      Originally posted by TOBYLEE1
      Lucas has been classy with his loss so far. I hope to see him agains soon.

      People here complaining of the low blows when a lot of them were caused by Lucas pulling Garcia from behind his head. Don't hear nobody complaining about Lucas rabbit punching and comming in with his head low (there were a lot of headbutts in that fight).

      It was a fight and neither guy complained.
      They only see what they wanna see. It's not making their case so they'll chose to ignore it. Lucas also did the same thing with PEDerson so he HAS a history of it.

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      • GRUSTLER
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        #123
        Originally posted by MDPopescu
        It's so simple: just Google a little and bring here a quote or a link according to which Danny ever called for a Lucas fight...
        As simple as that...
        (Lucas was beaten by a guy who was smarter, who has solid skills, and who was luckier... I am ranking Danny as #4 as P4P right now)
        I asked you to Show me where he said he would not fight Matthysse? The closet Thing I found to it is this:

        "It would be a good fight, but how can you be one of the best when you have no titles? He has two losses. I take nothing away from him. He's a good fighter, but he's not like no world-class superstar or nothing. He's just a regular tough guy to me, I've seen them before."

        http://www.global-mma.com/t3798-dann...for-next-fight
        He called a Matthysse a "regular tough guy" (which he proved) so Show me where he said he would not fight him?

        Scheafer said that Garcia isn't scared of anyone and said those that thought Garcia would duck the bout, have egg on face. The promoter thanked advisor Al Haymon, for okaying the fight, and noted that many felt he wouldn't pull the trigger and risk putting two of his clients into the ring together.

        Scheafer said there "wasn't much debate" among the fighters in getting the fight made. This is the most expensive sub-marquee fight ever on a pay-per-view, he also noted. "That's what made this fight take so long (to get made)," he said. He said it would have been easier to put the scrap on another date, and it also would have been more lucrative for his company, but he wanted the fans to be rewarded. He hunted for sponsorship money, and foreign rights money, and other streams, to mitigate the cost.

        http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/...nelo-undercard
        Here's my proof. Where's yours?
        Last edited by GRUSTLER; 09-23-2013, 07:23 AM.

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        • New England
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          #124
          for starters, the matthysse camp did a f#cking bad job with the eye. he was moving the swelling away from the eye, but it was coming back almost instantly. use a f#cking enswell, and apply steady pressure, the way it's been done for years.

          i was several rows back and i could tell that the eye wasn't being worked on properly.

          look a tthe eye post fight, afte rtheyt worked on it with the enswell. swollen, but he could see. it's not just the pressure from an enswell that reduces swelling. those things are kept on ice. ever felt ice cold steel? sh#T is cold, man. that's what gets the swelling to go down and stay down. moving the swelling from the eye works late in a fight, but you don't want to do it right away. it will make the swelling worse.


          the swelling was caused by clean, legal punches. if you can't land those, why bother boxing?
          if no bad eye, you wouldn't have been in a boxing match. it's a bit absurd to see the camp of a damaging puncher complaining about the damage from punches.


          matthysse is a limited fighter. when he can't land his gas and beat somebody up he's a normal fighter. a remtach won't be any different, but if they want to make it i'm down to watch it. the first fight was awesome, and a main event in its own right.
          Last edited by New England; 09-23-2013, 07:18 AM.

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          • champion4ever
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            #125
            Eye injury or not, it was still a hotly contested fight. However, with that being said, Danny Garcia was by far the better prepared of the two and fought a much smarter fight than Lucas Matthysse. He had a game plan and stuck to it.

            Lucas appeared overconfident in believing that he could KO Garcia, by simply loading up and landing single haymakers at a time but it backfired. Moreover, I believe he underestimated Danny's chin's too. He just wasn't as active or busy enough with his punch out put. He needed to turn the fight into a fast paced slugfest/brawl but failed.

            In addition, it didn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that Danny was going to attempt to make it a very tactical fight. He slowed down the pace with movement, constantly beat him to the punch and avoided the necessary exchanges with clinches and the strategy succeeded; Just as it had done previously before with Zab Judah and Devon Alexander, when they challenged and defeated Lucas Matthysse in contests against him.

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            • Frank Ducketts
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              #126
              Originally posted by El Angel
              I remember a sequence in the 11th where he clinched Matthysse, Weeks broke them, Matthysse came in, Garcia again clinched him, Weeks broke them, Matthysse came in, and AGAIN Garcia held both his hands. That's excessive.

              Was the right strategy to take against Matthysse though and it worked. If Weeks had just warned him, he would have watched for it and not done it as much.
              Danny was neither holding or clinching too much. No ref would've warned him for what he did in the Matthysse fight.

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              • Frank Ducketts
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                #127
                Weeks did a great job. He let them fight it out. One rabbit punched, the other went low. He stayed neutral. Matthysse rabbit punched almost every time Danny clinched. You were ok with this when Matthysse fought Peterson, but not on board for this fight. I know, your guy lost.

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                • TOBYLEE1
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                  #128
                  Soon you will start hearing again from the Danny haters that he is ducking a rematch.

                  Another fight between these two guys would do good business and I would love to watch but nothing merits an immediate rematch.

                  As far as I'm concern Lucas is still in the big picture for significant match ups

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                  • Frank Ducketts
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by MDPopescu
                    There's no excuse for Lucas in not KO-ing Danny...
                    But what's Danny's excuse for not giving Lucas a rematch as the Argentinian actually fought one-eyed for half of the fight?
                    (I know Danny's excuse: "I didn't want to fight Lucas in the first place, but I was forced to..."
                    That was Matthysses fans excuse for Danny. Danny would fight anyone.

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                    • Frank Ducketts
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by MDPopescu
                      I am not a Lucas' fan... I like Lucas and I like Danny... But I'll never forget that Danny didn't want to fight Lucas -- he was forced into this one... As I'll never forget that Danny has no intention to give Lucas a rematch -- and one cannot change bare facts...
                      Danny wasn't forced into anything. You have no bare facts. You picked Matthysse, he lost, and now you're saying what you're saying because you're forced to, lmao!

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