David Haye P4P #1 Boxing fraud

[LacedUp]

Yes, against the same Haye who struggled against Lolenga Mock,Carl Thompson,Old Valuev,Monte Barret,Mormeck,Wlad, Ruiz at times.

You mean Lolenga Mock he knocked out in the 4th after being knocked down in his 7th fight more than 10 years ago?

Haye never struggled with Valuev, Barrett or Ruiz. Wlad and Mormeck were long time champions, and he still managed to stop one of them.

Keep trolling.

[JAB5239]

I can agree that he has better physical attributes than most(not the height and size though!!!!) but as history has proven that is not everything in this sport. 5 HW wins in 5 years against some some sub par competion does not make him stand out above everyone.

Is it fair to say he gets far too much praise for doing so little?

I agree he gets to much praise for so little, but I'd probably pick him to beat any heavyweight right now except Wlad. I think that he's so highly rated and thought of says more about how bad this era is than anything else.

[Larry the boss]

I have not mentioned any cut! I have mentioned his overrated career.

Who is Overrating Haye?i have seen no 1 call him a ATG or a Hall of Famer...Where are you getting him being overrated from??he is a good solid fighter with speed and power

[JAB5239]

So piss off, you don't have to slack off the current hw division. Find another hobby, boat boy.

Why does it bother you that todays heavyweight division is so weak?

[black.ink]

Why does it bother you that todays heavyweight division is so weak?

His avatar is a clue. Can't downplay the division his favourite fighters are in.

[PolishPummler]

You mean Lolenga Mock he knocked out in the 4th after being knocked down in his 7th fight more than 10 years ago?

Haye never struggled with Valuev, Barrett or Ruiz. Wlad and Mormeck were long time champions, and he still managed to stop one of them.

Keep trolling.

I'm trolling because i used your argument against you?

And yes he absolutly struggled against Valuev. That was a very close fight in which even the hometown British commentators had Haye losing.

Ruiz had success against Haye before the back of his head got pounded into submission. Haye was down against Mormeck,Thompson,Mock,Barrett and even managed to score a KD against himself in the Wlad fight.

Im beating you at your own game. Now reply by calling me a troll for 190789678967 time.

[JAB5239]

His avatar is a clue. Can't downplay the division his favourite fighters are in.

Yep....dead give away.

Good to see you around a little more bro.

[kardsufur]

5 years and running.

Cant think of a bigger one in recent times. 1-1 record over the past 2 years and some still try to say he is the best thing next to the Klits.

Track records speak for themselves.

He's almost a bigger fraud and disappointment than Audley Harrison

[Porter's Dad]

He's a scam artist, no doubt. But an injury is an injury and I don't see why he would pass up such an easy, and big, payday.

[LacedUp]

I'm trolling because i used your argument against you?

And yes he absolutly struggled against Valuev. That was a very close fight in which even the hometown British commentators had Haye losing.

Ruiz had success against Haye before the back of his head got pounded into submission. Haye was down against Mormeck,Thompson,Mock,Barrett and even managed to score a KD against himself in the Wlad fight.

Im beating you at your own game. Now reply by calling me a troll for 190789678967 time.

It's a poor argument. He was a novice when being dropped by Mock. Don't forget, the best heavyweight on the planet was down vs more than 2 journeymen in his career, and has been down about twice as many times as Haye in his career.

It was a close fight, but he didn't "struggle". He was hardly touched at all vs Valuev, and let's not forget, he was outweighed by more than 100 pounds. It was the biggest difference in weight EVER in a championship fight, yet you don't point that out do you?

What was my own game exactly? You are pointing out things that happened more than ten years ago, which would be equal to me saying Wlad is overrated because he lost to Purrity or down vs Pandelli/Williams/Peter/Brewster/Sanders etc etc.