Is there really any fighter in boxing history that is unquestionably

[Poet682006]

What does there weedy bodys tell you about that kind of ancient dumb ass training ?

Boxing isn't a body building contest. If it were then Ken Norton >>>>> Floyd.

[The_Sandman]

Dude. You aren't living in the Matrix. And btw, they were sparring for 20 rounds for a 15 round fight and this after doing 6 miles of roadwork in the morning. You're obviously pretty damn ignorant about how fighters used to prepare for fights.

Sorry, but sports science isn't turning today's fighters into bionic supermen. Your generation isn't superior to generations past and the sooner you figure that out the better. If anything boxing has DEvolved as too many skills that past generations had are lost today.

I'm not trying to be ignorant of anything. I just understand that fighters evolve. Sure I may be wrong about how many rounds they sparred. I'm sure there were people who sparred 50 rounds for a 15 round fight back then. Who knows? But fighters will find more effective ways to train. I'm not trying to say my generation is superior to any other generation. What I'm trying to say is, I understand nature. It's natural for fighters to be better than what they once were. Is that wrong? Guess what, the best fighter in the next generation will probably be better than Floyd. In fact, I'm counting on it. It's natural for fighters to learn from the ones that came before them. Not only will the future learn from fighters like SRR, Leonard, Ali, but now Floyd Mayweather. You can think I'm ignorant or whatever, but if I say a fighter of now can learn things from the fighters of the past, than I see it as respect to them.

[Poet682006]

I'm not trying to be ignorant of anything. I just understand that fighters evolve. Sure I may be wrong about how many rounds they sparred. I'm sure there were people who sparred 50 rounds for a 15 round fight back then. Who knows? But fighters will find more effective ways to train. I'm not trying to say my generation is superior to any other generation. What I'm trying to say is, I understand nature. It's natural for fighters to be better than what they once were. Is that wrong? Guess what, the best fighter in the next generation will probably be better than Floyd. In fact, I'm counting on it. It's natural for fighters to learn from the ones that came before them. Not only will the future learn from fighters like SRR, Leonard, Ali, but now Floyd Mayweather. You can think I'm ignorant or whatever, but if I say a fighter of now can learn things from the fighters of the past, than I see it as respect to them.

Closed systems like boxing aren't nature. In nature, evolution takes place over hundreds of thousands of years not a few short decades. Human beings as biological en****** aren't any superior to humans of 50 years ago.....or a hundred. Boxing is a very narrow, closed system where knowledge peaked out quite a long time ago. There isn't anything new to learn that isn't already known. That's the nature of closed systems. If anything, there needs to be a relearning of things that have been lost over the past 20 or so years. So Floyd has learned from Joe Walcott? So what? So did Ray Leonard. Neither Ray nor Floyd improved on what they learned from Walcott. They simply copied it and modified it to best fit their natural abilities. And that's what ALL fighters do: Adapt what they learn to what best works for them as an individual. That doesn't make it superior, that just makes it unique to their unique needs.

[Reloaded]

Boxing isn't a body building contest. If it were then Ken Norton >>>>> Floyd.

No thats bodybuilding to stand there and look big , boxing today and modern day combat is about balancing extremes .

Maximum speed balanced with maximum power balanced with maximum endurance .

Old school was about maximum endurance , work work work , that's why so many of them were rough and tough but no power , look at the modern fighter crack , god dam they snap them out precisely today like missiles .

Boxing started of as a fist fight , the casual male fan is still in that upbringing of don't turn the other cheek stand your ground be strong you sissy , be the man , punch his head in , wind up toy mentality ,,,,,,, don't worry you lost son you gave it your all , that's all fcked up philosophy , this is not what prizefighting is about , not if you want to rule , you got to be smart , being the mug tough guy is not smart .

Science in nutrition and sports training has evolved in leaps and bounds in all sports not just boxing , all records are being broken .

Those old time guys if you could beam them in to the now , in their old condition against the modern conditioned fighter , they gunna get blasted back to where they came from , or a beating like they never got before , the sustained power game of today has come a long long way , the tight crisp explosive nature of the modern fighter , was not there till the 70s , the biggest real influence in the transition was more to do with nutrition than training , they didn't know a 10th about performance feeding way back .

[Poet682006]

No thats bodybuilding to stand there and look big , boxing today and modern day combat is about balancing extremes .

Maximum speed balanced with maximum power balanced with maximum endurance .

Old school was about maximum endurance , work work work , that's why so many of them were rough and tough but no power , look at the modern fighter crack , god dam they snap them out precisely today like missiles .

Boxing started of as a fist fight , the casual male fan is still in that upbringing of don't turn the other cheek stand your ground be strong you sissy , be the man , punch his head in , wind up toy mentality ,,,,,,, don't worry you lost son you gave it your all , that's all fcked up philosophy , this is not what prizefighting is about , not if you want to rule , you got to be smart , being the mug tough guy is not smart .

Science in nutrition and sports training has evolved in leaps and bounds in all sports not just boxing , all records are being broken .

Those old time guys if you could beam them in to the now , in their old condition against the modern conditioned fighter , they gunna get blasted back to where they came from , or a beating like they never got before , the sustained power game of today has come a long long way , the tight crisp explosive nature of the modern fighter , was not there to the 70s , the biggest real influence in the transition was more to do with nutrition than training , they didn't know a 10th about performance feeding way back .

Yeah, guys like Joe Louis and George Foreman didn't have any power. Right.

You just keep smoking that good stuff Junior.

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Yeah, guys like Joe Louis and George Foreman didn't have any power. Right.

You just keep smoking that good stuff Junior.

No the average of the sport didn't have much power , you don't understand what Im saying to you .

[MartinC]

I have Floyd 26 all time and that is generous because even though his record is manufactured he did manage to carefully remain undefeated.

[New England]

[Poet682006]

No the average of the sport didn't have much power , you don't understand what Im saying to you .

Horse****. Do you understand that?

btw, the only thing that's being reloaded by you is your crackpipe.

[Danieltapia]

These are some great fighters!