Is there really any fighter in boxing history that is unquestionably

[Jloro]

Roy Jones JR, Bernard Hopkins, Sergio Martinez


If they were more his size of course to make it more fair

[ßringer]

You lost me at Pacquiao. Hopkins and Holyfield lose too. But hey, We are talking about different era's in time, nobody will ever know for sure.

Barrera, Morales, Marquez, Cotto, Margarito, Hatton, and Bradley (he won that fight) > Castillo, Corrales, Hatton, De La Hoya, Canelo, Ortiz, and Hernandez.

[LoadedWraps]

better than Floyd anymore?

I can't think of a fighter that would, without a doubt beat Floyd anymore.

The guys upper body movement, spacing, and counter punching leaves me to believe that every fighter in the history of boxing fights his fight, and he ends up with a SD at worst with every fighter in his weight category.

The only guy I think could potentially beat Floyd is, Tommy Hearns.

I just witnessed 36 year old man, look better than I've ever seen him, going up against a guy that outweighed him by 15 lbs. and way younger, and hungry. Also, Canelo is no slouch by any stretch of the imagination.

Discuss.

Are you being serious? There are tons of fighters in history that would beat floyd. Wow. People are ridiculous nowadays.

[Reloaded]

Roy Jones JR, Bernard Hopkins, Sergio Martinez


If they were more his size of course to make it more fair

If they were his size he beats them all his defense is just too good , Floyd has no weakness other than brittle hands .

[IIG]

I tend to stay out of these types of discussions because people seem to get their feelings hurt too easily. But from what I've seen of the ATGs (I'd love to see some of Robinson's fights at 147), I don't see Floyd losing to many, if any of them. Leonard vs. Mayweather is my dream fight though.

[Khalid X]

If Floyd would have beaten Cotto and Margarito in 08, Pacquiao in 10.....and maybe a guy like Williams or Martinez.....then I would have him as a top 5 ATG. I use to be a huge fan of Floyd, and my dislike for him over the past couple of years was solely due to him bull****ting and not striving for greatness.

Even if your the biggest fan, you have to admit he dropped the ball.

[Alx.]

Probably Hearns, Leonard and Duran.

[Khalid X]

Barrera, Morales, Marquez, Cotto, Margarito, Hatton, and Bradley (he won that fight) > Castillo, Corrales, Hatton, De La Hoya, Canelo, Ortiz, and Hernandez.

I agree with this. However as much as I like Pacquiao.....that KO loss to Marquez has hurt his legacy. He definitely needs to redeem himself, and hopefully we see Pacquiao vs Marquez 5.

[ßringer]

Starting to reach that same conclusion as well. It's more annoying that people want him to move up to 160 though, I think that's too much. Canelo's punches were moving Floyd, that right there says it all.

I don't think so. At all.

There's nobody out there from 140-154 that will even win more than 2 rounds against Floyd. Whether you make that into a testament to Floyd's greatness or you just look at it like a pathetic era (like I do) is totally up to you. However, great champions look to challenge themselves when no challenges present themselves.

Floyd could totally win a title at 160 and it'd be historic and memorable, but he doesn't seem interested in challenging himself in that way. I guess I can't blame him considering he's still making boatloads of money fighting no-hopers, but it'll be interesting to see where he goes from here because I can't see him cracking 1 million PPV buys with anybody from 140-154 right now. Nobody else from 140-154 has a big enough fan base or is seen as a big enough threat to him to warrant a mass buy.

Showtime look like total ****s right now for giving him so much money when there was nobody compelling for him to fight apart from Alvarez, which they just cashed out on.

[Khalid X]

Probably Hearns, Leonard and Duran.

Floyd beats Leonard. I also use to think Hearns could be Floyd, but not after last Sat.

IMO, Mayweather vs Duran is a helluva fight.