Mayweather is better than Sweet Pea

[The Gambler1981]

One thing to keep in mind in comparing Floyd's to Whitiker's career is Sweet Pea had a shorter career both in years and fights for a reason he blew his career up his nose (although not in total fights after they first fought at the world championship level).

While Pea may be better than these guys at his peak or close to it, but Pea first fought Ramirez in 88 and fought Trinidad in 99 when he was clearly done even going back a couple years to 97 is Hurtado really better than a guy like Guerrero or two fights back in 96 Wilferdo Rivera gave Pea all he could handle.

For comparison Floyd became a champ in 98 and he isn't really any closer to losing.

I would say Floyd is better because he is more dedicated to the game and his craft, but hey Pea is great so it could go either way.

[joseph5620]

Dude, Hatton was his best at 140, why are you trying to act like he performed better at 147? We're telling the truth, you just refuse to admit it because it includes admitting Mayweather dragged Hatton up from his best weight class to 147.

Mayweather's career began at 130.

Hatton's career began at 140




Hatton did not want the Mayweather fight at 140 and turned the fight down twice. Mayweather did not "drag him up to 147."

Stop lying.

As I said, you clearly don't know what you are talking about.

http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/cbzforum/showthread.php?1980-Hatton-Speaks-Why-He-Turned-Down-A-Mayweather-Fight-Twice

Hatton Speaks: Why He Turned Down A Mayweather Fight Twice
Hatton Speaks: Asked why he turned down a Mayweather Fight Twice this year from Dog House Boxing


Ricky Hatton
In an International Press conference held yesterday, Ricky Hatton was told that Bruce Trampler of Top Rank, Mayweather’s now former promoter had said that Ricky turned down a fight with Mayweather at least twice this year and that he would not be facing him this year. Hatton was asked if this was correct?

Here is what Ricky Hatton had to say on the subject:

RICKY HATTON: Well, me personally it wasn’t done but I mean I can’t be speaking for their – you know for my team or – to be honest this year it would be ****** to admit with a fight with Mayweather because I have so many problems with – problems outside the ring where my father promoted (INAUDIBLE) obviously we were sitting trying to do a deal with HBO.

[T18Z]

Mayweather carrer began at 130.

Hatton's career began at 140




Hatton did not want the Mayweather fight at 140 and turned the fight down twice at 140. So Mayweather did not "drag him up to 147" so stop lying.

As I said, you clearly don't know what you are talking about.

http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/cbzforum/showthread.php?1980-Hatton-Speaks-Why-He-Turned-Down-A-Mayweather-Fight-Twice

Hatton Speaks: Why He Turned Down A Mayweather Fight Twice
Hatton Speaks: Asked why he turned down a Mayweather Fight Twice this year from Dog House Boxing


Ricky Hatton
In an International Press conference held yesterday, Ricky Hatton was told that Bruce Trampler of Top Rank, Mayweather’s now former promoter had said that Ricky turned down a fight with Mayweather at least twice this year and that he would not be facing him this year. Hatton was asked if this was correct?

Here is what Ricky Hatton had to say on the subject:

RICKY HATTON: Well, me personally it wasn’t done but I mean I can’t be speaking for their – you know for my team or – to be honest this year it would be ****** to admit with a fight with Mayweather because I have so many problems with – problems outside the ring where my father promoted (INAUDIBLE) obviously we were sitting trying to do a deal with HBO.

Did you read what you wrote? He turned down the fight because of problems outside the ring, it has nothing to do with him saying "'I'm best at 147".

All of Hattons career defining fights, performances and wins are at 140, yet you somehow think he's a better fighter at 147 despite both of his fights at that weight being crap?

Again, you dig yourself deeper.

[Vasyl’s dad]

If you want to say Whitaker beat Chavez (in spite of the BS scorecard), Sweet Pea only has one hall of fame fighter on his resume.
Mayweather beat De La Hoya, Marquez and Mosley, three future HOFers right there, Gatti a guy already in the hall, and Cotto who is a borderline case. Five to one.

Sweet Pea had titles in four divisions, compared with Mayweather's five. And by the age of 33, Whitaker was already over the hill. Mayweather's still going strong at 36. I don't there really is a case to be made that Whitaker is better than Mayweather, especially after he dismantled the legitimate 154 pound champion Saturday night.
The real blemish on Mayweather's record of course is he didn't fight Pacquiao but how much blame one should attribute to him for that fight not coming off in light of the OST controversy and the issues with Arum, is highly questionable.

Pretty easy to go strong at 36 when you fight once a year for the past 7 years.



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[J The UnBiased]

Did you read what you wrote? He turned down the fight because of problems outside the ring, it has nothing to do with him saying "'I'm best at 147".

All of Hattons career defining fights, performances and wins are at 140, yet you somehow think he's a better fighter at 147 despite both of his fights at that weight being crap?

Again, you dig yourself deeper.

shutup boy, you got owned for lying.

[J The UnBiased]

Pretty easy to go strong at 36 when you fight once a year for the past 7 years.



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I love seeing you make excuses everyday

[T18Z]

shutup boy, you got owned for lying.

I didn't lie about anything you ******.

[illmaticfighter]

Dude, Hatton was his best at 140, why are you trying to act like he performed better at 147? We're telling the truth, you just refuse to admit it because it includes admitting Mayweather dragged Hatton up from his best weight class to 147.

floyd had just fought at 54 so he was suppose to go down two divisions for hatton?

hatton was lineal at 40 but also had a title at 47 no one is saying floyd fought the lineal hatton but your making excuses.

floyd just fought at 54 and hatton had a title at 47 these are facts i fail to see why the fight shouldn't have happened at that weight.

[T18Z]

floyd had just fought at 54 so he was suppose to go down two divisions for hatton?

hatton was lineal at 40 but also had a title at 47 no one is saying floyd fought the lineal hatton but your making excuses.

floyd just fought at 54 and hatton had a title at 47 these are facts i fail to see why the fight shouldn't have happened at that weight.

You're flip flopping, Hattons best accomplishments and performances were at 140. Hatton was not a better fighter at 147, that's all I'm saying, if you don't agree I don't care, it doesn't change it. The fight was at 147 to make the fight possible, I understand that, but please, at least admit Hatton was at his best at 140 jesus.

[The Big Dunn]

Anyone agree?

Mayweather better skilled all around and defensively is better IMO. Pea was badly hurt by uncle Roger and tasted the canvas quite a few times.

Mayweather is the smarter fighter inside and outside the ring, beats him in longevity as well.Say what you want about Mayweather but the man is one of the most disciplined athletes of all time.

Time do give the man his due, he's right up there with the greatest of all time.

I think its fair to say they are on the same level. Beating Canelo doesn't elevate floyd any higher than he already is.

I think it just highlights that floyd makes every fighter he fights Canelo, Hatton, Ghost, Shane, corrales, gatti, etc look overmatched despite the fact they all have different attributes.