Originally posted by The Tase
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When was the last time 2 undefeated Ring Champions fought to unify a division?
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Originally posted by damned1974 View PostMarquez and Bradley have only fought at WW maybe 2 times...Robert has at least been there 3 times. Guerrero's fights amount to more...sure he lost to Floyd, but technically, Bradley should have the loss to Pac. If those are out of the equation, then at least Robert beat Berto and Aydin...Bradley beat Abregu and now a Provodnikov who a lot of people thought Bradley lost and was even a division out of...you can make a good arguement for Robert being ranked higher than Bradley.
Hell,we will see who is ranked where once Bradley fights Marquez...we all know the outcome of Mayweather/Marquez-no need to see a rematch while JMM is getting older and slower.
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Originally posted by SoggyLungsnot marquez or pac....guerrero fought berto who was irrelevant at that point and aydin who hadn't really fought anyone but was ranked in the top ten at ww...but i'd rank him above bradley...bradley lost against pac..and ring recognizes this among many other media and fans..and then he defended against a #10 jr ww who almost knocked him out...
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Originally posted by Reloaded View PostManny fought at 147 before and after Cotto , but for the real WT he demanded a 145 CW , is that the same kinda insane ?
kinda not the same.
try again.
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Originally posted by The Tase View PostManny was a 2x champion at 147 before he faced cotto like floyd is a 2x 154lb champion before he faced canelo????
kinda not the same.
try again.
Why did Manny fight at 147 then force Cotto to 145 and then straight back to 147 , your emphasizing titles when Manny fights non title bouts at the division weight and forced the belt holder to a 145 CW , whats your take on that ? was he scared of Cotto ?
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Just saw ol Rick Reeno on the Floyd-Canelo ppv countdown
Boxingscene on the map..what up REENO!!!LOL
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Ring belt means fuck all nowadays
no need to make the fight into something it's not Larryx
past it but still good ATG whipping a decent, prime, younger fighter
Floyd becomes #1 at JMW win this win, but not lineal champ
he has more work to do to unify the division
and that's very likely not happening
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Considering Mayweather was the last lineal champion...the man who beat the man and retired undefeated and came back. He is the only fighter with any real claim to being the welterweight champion. When he came back he beat WBC welterweight titleholder and top 5 rated Ortiz, dominated Marquez who is now top 5, I believe Mosley was stripped of the WBA belt before they fought but he was ranked as the highest welterweight, Guerrero was highly ranked at the weight....there really is no dispute who the welterweight champion is
As far as Canelo...he only has a modest claim to being the real junior middleweight champion. Beating Mayweather is a step in the right direction. The Trout win isnt enough to earn that distinction when guys like Carlos Molina, Erislandy Lara, and Ishe Smith have defeated/faced better opposition and hold high rankings and smith holds the other major title
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