Comments Thread For: Canelo: Mayweather Wanted 147, Tried To Keep Us Quiet

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  • MindBat
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    #21
    Canelo gets the chance to make him eat his words. Manny missed his opportunity to do it at 147.


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    • Vasyl’s dad
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      #22
      Originally posted by djinferno
      who gives a ****, Floyd is 147, Canelo is making his biggest purse with Floyd, so who needed who here?

      Boxing fans are so ******, they forget that this is a business SMH
      It is? Can you tell me why I never read about it in Business World Magazine? Or Businessweek.com?

      I read stories about fights in the sports section of the paper, or espn, or foxsports.

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      • LOWBLOW_CHAMP
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        #23
        canelo is going to be at least 167 come fight night ill bet everything on it

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        • djinferno
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          #24
          if weight is being disgust so much, you can believe hes having problems making weight for a while and he gonna look like it come fight night...

          thuth is , Canello should be fighting GGG and them...


          Last edited by djinferno; 09-10-2013, 10:34 PM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by T18Z
            Spoken like a true Floyd fan.

            "It doesn't matter"

            Same old same old, gtfo.

            The fact is, it doesn't matter. Canelo should not have accepted the terms about the weight. But he accepted, so he has to deal with it. Just like Austin Trout accepted terms that were to his disadvantage just to fight Canelo. He complained later, but it's no one's fault but Trout's for accepting the bad terms.
            Last edited by radioraheem; 09-10-2013, 10:37 PM.

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              #26
              Originally posted by CatchweightKing
              It is? Can you tell me why I never read about it in Business World Magazine? Or Businessweek.com?

              I read stories about fights in the sports section of the paper, or espn, or foxsports.

              Those 'business' magazines you mentioned are trash. Secondly, they don't normally discuss sports business or athlete's finances. Sometimes they do, but it's not common.

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              • MindBat
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                #27
                Originally posted by djinferno
                if weight is being disgust so much, you can believe hes having problems making weight for a while and he gonna look like it come fight night...

                thuth is , Canello should be fighting GGG and them...



                discussed.

                truth.


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                • Vasyl’s dad
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by radioraheem
                  Those 'business' magazines you mentioned are trash. Secondly, they don't normally discuss sports business or athlete's finances. Sometimes they do, but it's not common.
                  Whether they are trash or not isn't the point.

                  The point is,

                  you don't read about boxing in business magazines or the business section of the newspaper because its a sport.

                  You get that? Its in the sports section of the paper and in sports magazines because boxing is a sporting competition.

                  All this garbage about "boxing is a business" is an excuse for your favorite fighter to duck, and manipulate. Thats it.

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                  • mathed
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by The Weebler I
                    So Floyd put a confidentiality clause in the agreement and then Ellerbe opened big mouth waiving it on All Access.



                    Any money on Canelo math?
                    Well.....I'm waiting until Friday to drop some cash, just want to see the prop bet odds. In all honesty (trolling aside), I think you can never really go wrong betting on Floyd but this is the kind of a fight that just oozes upset. That could be either due to a KO or a close ("controversial") decision.

                    There are a lot of things at play in this fight. Mayweather brings in a TON of money to Vegas, he has the skills to evade Canelo's onslaught and win by decision, he is the established fighter...the name fighter, so things could go his way if it's close..........he isn't gooing to KO Canelo, I'm not sure what the hell these people are talking about with that stuff.

                    On the other hand, Showtime HAS to pay Floyd a ton of money for each and every fight he is in with no guarantee that he will make them a profit. This fight, a rematch of this fight, or a Pac fight are really the only fights that will ensure Showtime comes out on the winning end. Of course there could be the winner of the Lucas-Danny fight but that winner would have to win in IMPRESSIVE fashion (KO) to drum up enough interest. This leaves a very big possibility of a "crooked" decision if this fight is fairly close with the appearance that Floyd should win, yet Canelo earning a SD victory. This would guarantee a rematch and tons of money for Showtime.

                    Then you have the dynamic of Canelo being the "next PPV star" on the horizon, already under the Showtime banner, and I'm positive Showtime would rather pay Canelo 8-12 million a PPV fight than 32+ million a fight for Floyd. They would be guaranteed to make plenty off of every single Canelo PPV they sponsor.

                    So, I'm feeling like Canelo will be Floyd's toughest fight of his career and there are things out there that could make it better for the stakeholders if Canelo were to win.

                    I'm personally going to put some money on a draw without a doubt. The odds will be highly favorable and the outcome is more than a possibility. You are talking maybe 21:1 odds or so. $10.00 could net you $210.00 and even if you you lose, it's not a big loss....hypothetically speaking.

                    The obvious bet would be Floyd by decision...not so good odds but a fairly comfortable safety net.

                    It all depends how much of a dog Canelo is on a decision win. I think Canelo will hurt Mayweather but so did Mosley and Floyd recovered. Floyd has bitten just about as much as he can chew in this fight but I think he has the resilience to go the distance and survive if he gets shocked by something. This leaves it to the matter of is it worth placing the sport of boxing on Floyd's shoulders or Canelo's? Who knows, but Canelo has tremendous upside and Floyd is costing his network a ton of money with limited options for the future and boxing is no stranger to "corrupt" decisions.

                    Most likely, $10-$20 on a draw......over $100.00 on Floyd by decision (they still may rematch it it's only a SD win for Floyd because of the money to be made)...but I'll have to see what the prop odds are.

                    Floyd always seems to get the benefit of the doubt so no matter how much I think Canelo will put it on him, Floyd by decision always feels right but his road is at the end......this much I hope everyone is sure of or should be if they are paying attention. If it's not age that gets him, it's going to be his love for money...the network (s) will toss him aside for a better deal and Canelo is looking like a hell of a steal right now.
                    Last edited by mathed; 09-10-2013, 10:43 PM.

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                    • TU PADRE
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by radioraheem
                      The fact is, it doesn't matter. Canelo should not have accepted the terms about the weight. But he accepted, so he has to deal with it. Just like Austin Trout accepted terms that were to his disadvantage just to fight Canelo. He complained later, but it's no one's fault but Trout's for accepting the bad terms.
                      I don't think you understand the whole point of this. Canelo is not complaining about making 152, or anyone else in here. You and the other flo mos are giving mayweather a pass for being a hypocrit

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