So if Matthyse & Garcia go to the score cards...

[bojangles1987]

I imagine you would have a really difficult time proving this with real events and scorecards. Just look at guys like Jerry Roth who score different fights differently (Pac v JMM and Pac v Bradley)

The nature of a human being watching a fight (and the mistakes that follow) is paramount to everything else

It's as simple as seeing who wins a gift decision. Take every controversial decision over the last five years or so, list them, and see who received the nod. Damn near every time you'll see the better business decision got the win.

[BoxingFollower]

So their are many here that believe that Lucas MUST get a KO in order to win?? That he could lose win MAJORITY of the rounds and still get robbed???

[whitealltrac]

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I don't understand what you're saying here. How are we not standing behind Lucas if it goes to decision?

Well to make you understand.........Lucas is made to be this super fighter that if it goes to the cards it should not be a problem since it will be a decision right?

I mean come one......Danny is not supposed to take Lucas power most of you say he will not last past 6 rounds so why you guys are thinking of a decision now???

[Russian Crushin]

Whether I can or can't, that has no bearing on the scorecards of the zab matts fight. Better or harder or pitty pat are not in the official rules. Period.

So you cant, What a surprise

So you score fights by who ever lands the most punches, correct. You clearly had Castillo beating floyd than

[BUNGALOWS]

go create another race bait thread about black fans. you are 8 months late to this debate.

Truth hurt? You know I'm right about you, and your agenda driven posts.

Give it up. No one actually thinks Zab beat Lucas. The people that do always have an agenda, and use it in their arguments to validate themselves, and their dumb opinions.

[bojangles1987]

Well to make you understand.........Lucas is made to be this super fighter that if it goes to the cards it should not be a problem since it will be a decision right?

I mean come one......Danny is not supposed to take Lucas power most of you say he will not last past 6 rounds so why you guys are thinking of a decision now???

We're acknowledging that if it goes to decision, the chances of Lucas getting the nod are low Lucas gets it, even if he deserves it. It's the truth.

[WilkinsOlajuwon]

It's as simple as seeing who wins a gift decision. Take every controversial decision over the last five years or so, list them, and see who received the nod. Damn near every time you'll see the better business decision got the win.

Like I said, you'd have a hard time detailing this definitively. You surely didnt with the above. Sometimes a close/controversial decision awarded to the "better business decision" is, in fact, warranted. And what about the times the better business fighter loses? were those also an act just to throw us all off?

not saying there isnt some funny business from time to time, but its not on the scale you are fronting

[The Big Dunn]

So you cant, What a surprise

So you score fights by who ever lands the most punches, correct. You clearly had Castillo beating floyd than

The scoring of floyd castillo 1 had no bearing on the zab matts scoring. you repeatedly post about "better" punches, that is you opinion.

[bojangles1987]

Like I said, you'd have a hard time detailing this definitively. You surely didnt with the above. Sometimes a close/controversial decision awarded to the "better business decision" is, in fact, warranted. And what about the times the better business fighter loses? were those also an act just to throw us all off?

not saying there isnt some funny business from time to time, but its not on the scale you are fronting

Matthysse/Judah: Went to Judah
Matthysse/Alexander: Went to Alexander
Kotelnik/Alexander: Went to Alexander
Lara/Williams: Went to Williams.
Abril/Rios: Went to Rios
Pac/Marquez 3: Went to Pac
Campillo/Cloud: Went to Cloud
Love/Rosado: Went to Love
Burns/Beltran: Went to Burns
Froch/Dirrell: Went to Froch

Seriously, look at them all and write them down. These are just what came ot mind immediately, I know I'm forgetting a lot more. Notice who gets these decisions over and over and over. It can be detailed, very easily. What do you want, a confession? That's never going to happen.

[The Big Dunn]

Truth hurt? You know I'm right about you, and your agenda driven posts.

Give it up. No one actually thinks Zab beat Lucas. The people that do always have an agenda, and use it in their arguments to validate themselves, and their dumb opinions.

your come off as nothing more than an internet bigot who happens to watch boxing when its on major cable networks. If you thought Lucas won then I am glad my opinion differs from yours. I hope never to share the same opinion as you.