So if Matthyse & Garcia go to the score cards...

[The Big Dunn]

I dont know how to score a fight yet you score the fight for both guys changing your mind. Fights where 92% of fans thought devon lost and 75% thought Judah lost.

You've still yet to explain how judah or Devon won if you actually take in account punches landed. Its because u cant

russian you posted how you scored the fight and I posted the official rules for scoring fights. You were wrong. Period. You are not even man enough to admit it.

I don't care if 92% thought devon lost. I didn't, then I rewatched, admitted I was wrong and agreed with you. Yet you are still mad. Grow up.

As for Zab, I explained to you the first time we discussed this why I thought zab won. I am not going to do it again. Matts seemed to learn from that by picking up the pace earlier.

Thats what adults do, they learn from there mistakes, make improvements, and don't make the same mistake again. You could learn alot from Matts.

[whitealltrac]

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What?? None of the Lucas riders have any hope on standing behind such a great fighter if it goes to a decision???

Buahahahahaha...........War DANNY!!!

[The Big Dunn]

Don't know the proper way to score a fight if you gave them to Matthysse? The majority thought he won BOTH.

The large majority. Damn near everyone thought he beat Alexander, because he did.

When I 1st debated this Russian posted some ridiculous self made scoring system. SO I simply posted the official scoring rules. If you use the official rules and not a made up scoring system and you had Matts winning both-fine. I agree with the judges that zab won and scored fight same.

As I said I was wrong about Matts v Devon and changed accordingly.

[WilkinsOlajuwon]

Are you saying they don't rob the deserving winner to give it to the more marketable fighter?

Who is "they?"

Remember a little fight called Pacquiao v Bradley?

There are some really awful, old judges that dont know how to score fights. That's predominantly why you get bad decisions. Also, many fans dont score 12 rounds, they watch a fight and decide who won it. Its 12 little fights, not one big one.

[El Angel]

Who is "they?"

Remember a little fight called Pacquiao v Bradley?

There are some really awful, old judges that dont know how to score fights. That's predominantly why you get bad decisions. Also, many fans dont score 12 rounds, they watch a fight and decide who won it. Its 12 little fights, not one big one.

I'm more than aware how you score a fight. Pacquiao-Bradley is the exception, not the rule. The coincidence that the ticket seller usually gets the close decisions is not a coincidence usually. Love-Rosado comes to mind for smaller named guys, a TMT fighter on a Mayweather undercard, he wasn't losing if it was reasonably close.

[FerFAL]

Lucas would get robbed, but Danny Garcia wont be awake by round 6. Matthysse has the skill and power to destroy him, and Garcia wont last that long anyway. If by a rare miracle he survives 12 rounds, Garcia would be such a bloody mess that it would be a scandal to rob him yet again.
I wouldnt waste much time thinking about this though, if you know boxing you know LM aint no old man Morales. I'd like to think Danny gets schooled like when Maravilla schooled Chavez Jr., but Matthysse isnt interested in schooling or teaching anything to this fool, he just wants to damage him and that's what he'll do. It wont even last that long so that Danny learns any hard earned lessons. Matthysse will study him for most of round 1 and go to work before the round ends. By the time round 1 ends, Danny will have tasted Matthysse's power and not like it one bit. He will finally understand he's caught in that ring with a monster. He'll go out to round 2 with caution, and it will all be over soon after that.

[bojangles1987]

When I 1st debated this Russian posted some ridiculous self made scoring system. SO I simply posted the official scoring rules. If you use the official rules and not a made up scoring system and you had Matts winning both-fine. I agree with the judges that zab won and scored fight same.

As I said I was wrong about Matts v Devon and changed accordingly.

I've been in many of these threads with Russian, and agree with how he scores fights. Above all else, the guy landing the best punches in a round should win that round. Defense and ring generalship and aggression should only come into play in a close round where neither guy had the edge in clean, effective punching.

I do disagree with him about the Judah fight, though. While there is much more of a case that Matthysse won, and I certainly think he should have gotten the decision, I can see how Judah gets 7 rounds. The two judges who scored it for him had it 7-5, and I can't complain about that. Russian doesn't think so, and I understand why he feels that way.

[FrankieClutch]

If it goes to the card it will be an extremely close decision, in my opinion. 115-113 either way, but I'd probably edge Lucas.

[bojangles1987]

What?? None of the Lucas riders have any hope on standing behind such a great fighter if it goes to a decision???

Buahahahahaha...........War DANNY!!!

I don't understand what you're saying here. How are we not standing behind Lucas if it goes to decision?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Floyd/Lucas would be much easier to sell than Floyd/Danny unless I'm underestimating the ******ity of PPV buyers.

It's the complete opposite.