So if Matthyse & Garcia go to the score cards...

[Russian Crushin]

russian was harping on "pitty pat" punches. Do the official rules reference power in any way? No.

So the question becomes do clean pitty pat jabs score more than partially landed power shots.

You're ridiculous sometimes.

Its called clean effective punches for a reason. Yes power punches from lucas are much more clean and effective then pitty pat jabs from judah that didnt even land in the first place

You're trying to make a claim that judahs pitty pats were better than lucas power punches is moronic. Plus Lucas clearly landed way more punches

[Russian Crushin]

"fancy feet" wtf? I said what you called running and pitty pat punches were clean jabs and ring generalship. geez dude. The really sad thing is you already have your mind made up that Lucas is getting robbed no matter what. It suggests you will not be not capable of scoring the fight impartially. I just hope you use the official rules this time.

What clean jabs? He rarely landed clean jab, they were almost always short. Have u actually watched the fight? This isnt the amateurs. Even if it was Lucas would easily have outscored him because judah did not land punches cleanly. U dont actually think pitty pat jabs are better then clean power punches, you're just doing this to defend hating lucas

[The Big Dunn]

Self made scoring system? Guy who lands the best punches wins. Thats what boxing is. You literally have Judah winning on running and missing jabs all night. U have no mention about punches landed because your entire argument crumbles if you do. Name the last fighter who landed way more better, harder and cleaner punches and lost?

Its a lot more than just landing the "best punches"--whatever that may be.

Its 12 little fights added together...not who you think wins the most judging categories at the end.

This was essentially the same point I made the 1st time we discussed this. You dont have to like Zab's style or slick boxers. But when you score based on that there is a problem.

[microMXL]

If it goes to the score cards it will be Dany getting the nod

[WilkinsOlajuwon]

No, most judges favor the bigger draw, the better business decision. You can't honestly believe that's a coincidence.

I imagine you would have a really difficult time proving this with real events and scorecards. Just look at guys like Jerry Roth who score different fights differently (Pac v JMM and Pac v Bradley)

The nature of a human being watching a fight (and the mistakes that follow) is paramount to everything else

[Russian Crushin]

This was essentially the same point I made the 1st time we discussed this. You dont have to like Zab's style or slick boxers. But when you score based on that there is a problem.

Name a time a fighter clearly landed the better punches but lost (correctly)

[The Big Dunn]

What clean jabs? He rarely landed clean jab, they were almost always short. Have u actually watched the fight? This isnt the amateurs. Even if it was Lucas would easily have outscored him because judah did not land punches cleanly. U dont actually think pitty pat jabs are better then clean power punches, you're just doing this to defend hating lucas

do the official rules of scoring a fight reference "better" punches?

[BUNGALOWS]

you're just doing this to defend hating lucas

/conversation.

We all know what his agenda is.

No one with any credible boxing knowledge actually thinks Zab or Devon beat Lucas. The people that do always seem to have an agenda, and can never score the fight, and explain why Zab or Devon won.

Check out the poll thread about Lucas/Zab. It was a landslide for Lucas, and everyone that scored it for Lucas, broke it down round by round, whereas the posters that scored it for Zab said, "it was a close fight, Zab winning was not a robbery", while not explaining or even breaking the fight down, round by round.

[The Big Dunn]

Name a time a fighter clearly landed the better punches but lost (correctly)

Whether I can or can't, that has no bearing on the scorecards of the zab matts fight. Better or harder or pitty pat are not in the official rules. Period.

[The Big Dunn]

/conversation.

We all know what his agenda is.

No one with any credible boxing knowledge actually thinks Zab or Devon beat Lucas. The people that do always seem to have an agenda, and can never score the fight, and explain why Zab or Devon won.

Check out the poll thread about Lucas/Zab. It was a landslide for Lucas, and everyone that scored it for Lucas, broke it down round by round, whereas the posters that scored it for Zab said, "it was a close fight, Zab winning was not a robbery", while not explaining or even breaking the fight down, round by round.

go create another race bait thread about black fans. you are 8 months late to this debate.