Pro's and Con's: Pacman vs El Terrible

[JOM'S]

i think some people expect too much from manny. he will fight a good fight but come up short against a determined fighter that doesnt know when to quit. im not saying morales is going to fight a dumb fight its just that he is not going to be intimidated by a one dimisional fighter. erik is a slugger but people underestimare his boxing ability. he is not ****** he knows that manny can knock him out. he is not going to go in there and trade punches. he will box manny and look for the knockout is he sees it. i hope manny does not underestimate eriks power cause he might get knocked out.

buddy if you have seen the press conference for the fight you would have seen that Manny was very respectful of EM, not making any prediction of KO, this just show that what you are hoping for the PAC will under estimate EM will never happen...

THIS WILL BE WAR...

[m00ks]

i think Pac missed a chance to spar with another guy who is definetly the next best thing to MAB as sparring partner,
INJIN CHI was in Cebu before Pac left the Philippines ....

It would be tough to spar with a potential opponent. You don't wanna give away too much of your secrets...

[AIR_KENG]

buddy if you have seen the press conference for the fight you would have seen that Manny was very respectful of EM, not making any prediction of KO, this just show that what you are hoping for the PAC will under estimate EM will never happen...

THIS WILL BE WAR...

i agree, pac usually is outspoken when he knows he can beat the opposition easily, or when he does not have much respect for his opponent. he showed respect to morales and i think is being cautious not to fire the mexican too early... he might not have enough when he gets into the ring, hehe... anyway, bottomline is manny respects erik, and erik respects manny. period.

[ELPacman]

In the press conference, someone asked Manny a question and Manny replied there will be a knockdown or knockout in the fight for sure. He wasn't saying who though he said, he knows Eric has power though so does he, so he won't be surprised.

[cmason]

Air Keng's post makes a lot of sense indeed. Just to add...

Morales main trust is his reach and uses it from a distance where he is more dangerous. From my experience of watching Morales' fights, he throws more accurate punches from a distance where he could measure his opponent well. Morales also attacks effectively when you face him with your head down, he could dig you down in volume. On the other hand, when he fights close, the upper cut is his most lethal punch. But what is most admirable on Morales' offensive ability is when he sees an opening and hurt you, he would follow it up with fast combinations and no matter how you counter, he will stay on top of you to continue those volume of punches. Morales connecting punches from a distance and punches coming from the top because he is usually taller than his opponents were always easy for the judges to see, that is why he would usually get a decision. We could readily see such scenario on his victories against the smaller ones like Ayala, Chavez and Hernandez.

For Pacquiao to counter Morales' deadly arsenals, he need lots of head and feet movemen plus good defense, fast hands and staying close to Morales.Pac must make a relentless attack every round to throw off Morales from his rhytm. I usually see Morales having trouble fighting at a close distance especially when his opponent has quicker hands than him. He also has trouble dealing with relentless attacks but never to the body, only to the head. When Morales' engaged with In Jin Chi, the Korean would always force him to engage closer that allowed Chi to connect with clear shots to the head in most rounds, that is the reason why his fight with Chi was really competitve than expected. In his last fight with Barrera, Marco avoided a fight from a distance and would always engage Morales toe-to-toe, even though Morales would always be on top of Barrera up close, Barrera had the quicker hands, that is why Barrera won. One good thing that Pacquiao must do that he could follow from Barrera is that Barrera would first allow Morales to throw his deadly right, upon avoiding Morales' right, Barrera would immediately struck a left hitting Morales defenseless.

I believe with Pacquiao's speed, he could beat Morales better than what Barrera showed. The more danger here for Morales is that Pacquiao has powerful fists than Barrera and more relentless than Barrera. Pacquiao's ability in cutting the ring and speed would force Morales to fight close and toe-to-toe with Pacquiao. Besides, when Morales feels the painful blows of Pacquiao, his Mexican machismo instinct would come out and would really slam**** with Pacquiao toe-to-toe, such match for sure would go Pacquiao's way.

I believe Morales has never seen such a fresh yet powerful and faster top opponent than Pacquiao. I never saw Zaragoza, but I saw Morales' fight with Ayala, Barrera, Hernandez, Chi, Espadas twice and Chavez and I could simply say no one comes close to Pac's power and speed. Barrera and Ayala might be more skillful than Pacquiao but Pac is getting more dangerous now with his improving skill that only complements his power and speed.

Pacquiao by late stoppage or decision.

i was going to post here but i think this just about covers the fight. being a morales fan i agree the worst thing he could do is stand toe-to-toe with pac, the power and speed of manny would be to much. for all his (considerable) skill, morales does tend to engage in wars when he could just box, the old "fight like a mexican" mindset. if he can establish his jab and get his right hand working from distance i can see morales winning, but if pac controls the pace like he did against barrera, he will win.

[morancito]

C'mon

I'm a Filipino and I think manny is much stronger and can punch harder than Morales...Pacman will KO Morales in the 4th round!

This is the kind of clueless posts that annoys me. El Terrible has never been knocked out and his one knock down came on a quesionable call by the ref in the first Barrera fight. Yes, Pacman is hits like a mule. But Eric has shown he has a granite chin. So for someone to think he'll get knocked out in 4 rounds is kinda ******.

Oh by the way, I'm Mexican.

[AIR_KENG]

This is the kind of clueless posts that annoys me. El Terrible has never been knocked out and his one knock down came on a quesionable call by the ref in the first Barrera fight. Yes, Pacman is hits like a mule. But Eric has shown he has a granite chin. So for someone to think he'll get knocked out in 4 rounds is kinda ******.

Oh by the way, I'm Mexican.

there is nothing like a rivalry between two nations... but don't take it too seriously though, just enjoy the fight and let's see who wins... by the way, i am also a filipino, hehe...

[morancito]

Mexico has its most heated rivalry with Puerto Rico. Also Cuba in the old days.

But this Manny vs. the three headed Mexican monster (MAB, EM, JMM) could open space for a good rivalry between Mexico and the Filipinas.

[Sister Sledge]

As good as Manny is, I've seen him KO'd twice and knocked down several times. I don't think he has a great chin. Morales is as tough as they come and is a bigger fighter.
I think we all know that Erik will be able to take Manny's punches for twelve rounds if he has to, but will Manny be able to take Erik's power? I don't know, but I think this will be a big factor in the fight. Styles make fights, and Barerra just didn't have a good style to beat Manny and would probably always lose to him. Erik may not be as fast as Manny, but he has better fundamentals. Manny fades down the stretch and I see Morales catching up to him by the 9th or 10th round.

[AIR_KENG]

As good as Manny is, I've seen him KO'd twice and knocked down several times. I don't think he has a great chin. Morales is as tough as they come and is a bigger fighter.
I think we all know that Erik will be able to take Manny's punches for twelve rounds if he has to, but will Manny be able to take Erik's power? I don't know, but I think this will be a big factor in the fight. Styles make fights, and Barerra just didn't have a good style to beat Manny and would probably always lose to him. Erik may not be as fast as Manny, but he has better fundamentals. Manny fades down the stretch and I see Morales catching up to him by the 9th or 10th round.

though i agree that erik's chin is more proven than manny's, let us consider when was the last time manny was KO'd or knocked down. that was long before and the manny today is totally different. he might not have the strongest chin but surely makes up for that with his defense. manny's defense only gets better and better with every fight. morales is slow for manny and does not have a remarkable handspeed, so manny could probably block erik's punches at any time. on teh other hand, i strongly disagree that manny fades late in a fight. if he fades well in a fight, then what do you call erik's? vanishing in the later rounds? as many fights as i've seen manny, he is still making that patended bobbing and weaving style even in the 12th round. if that's fading for you then i'll be fine with it...