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  • Originally posted by air_keng
    Pro’s and Con’s: The Destroyer versus El Terrible

    As much as everybody wants to see the Manny Pacquiao-Juan Manuel Marquez rematch, we will rather see a good, if not better, classic match between Erik “El Terrible” Morales and Manny “The Destroyer” Pacquiao.
    And as always, every classic battle between 2 of the most exciting fighters of the present time is preceded by much speculation and debate. So toi set things staright, let me sight some pro’s and con’s between these two great athletes.
    I have divided this into categories so here goes:

    POWER: These two are pretty much at par with regards to punching power. Manny is regarded to have the most devastating killer punch in boxing pound for pound, but on the contrary, he has yet to knock his opponent out with his right. His left is getting so much hype that people tend to underrate the power of his right, which also posseses some power as he displayed in the Barrera fight.
    Erik on the other hand, has shown great and balanced punching power in both hands. He can knock opponents out with either hand and does so with tremendous precision and smooth style. Though he does not have that nasty killer blow that Pacquiao has, he greatly makes up for that with some brutal 1-2.

    Advantage: DRAW

    SPEED: This is quite obvious. With his fast-paced, come-what-may approach, Manny surely wins this category. His handspeed, footwork, bobbing and weaving all complement his attacking style and the early barrage of punches.
    Erik is a slow-paced fighter, which may ezplain why he does not have such remarkable handspeed and footwork as Manny does. But it well fits his style of play.

    Advantage: MANNY

    SIZE AND REACH: Again, this is quite obvious. Erik is going to be the biggest opponent for Manny and may very well be a big factor in the fight. Erik is 2 inches taller than Manny, and has a whopping 4 inch advantage in reach. So this can greatly help the cause of the Mexican sensation.

    Advantage: ERIK

    ACCURACY: Due mainly to contrast of styles, Erik wins this category by a distance. With his think-now-attack-later approach, he will surely be more accurate in this fight. Manny is usually the aggressor in his fights and will still be in this one so it will probably spell a high number of total punches but very low landing rate.

    Advantage: ERIK

    STAMINA: This one is a close call. We know both fighters can go the distance. They have been in 10-12 round fights before and made it through. But I have to hand this out to Manny. With all that bobbing and weaving, he displays greater stamina than practically all of the fighters he faced.
    Erik also has great stamina, but just like in his two loses to MAB, he tends to show fatigue after he is bombed with a barrage of punches. But this is still a close call.

    Advantage: MANNY

    EXPERIENCE: Erik’s 3 fights at 130 lbs to Manny’s none. Erik’s 149 championhip rounds to Manny’s 46.Whew! That’s a lot of difference! Experience is backing up Erik’s side without any question. He is more comfortable at the weight class and shown that by being the champion, before losing it to eventual champion, MAB. It will definitely be an advantage for him since he is well adsjusted to the weight class and will need less polishing compared to Pacquiao who is still fighting at 130 lbs for the first time.

    Advantage: ERIK

    HUNGER: I will have to give this to Erik once more. Coming off a loss, he will surely take it on Manny to regain his rightful place as one of the best, if not the best, featherweight in the world.

    Advantage: ERIK

    MINDSET: Erik is such an emotional fighter. He looks into battles as something personal and that is something he should win. That explains the hunger he has. But if he is not able to get over the MAB loss and rather take it on Manny, to prove something that he can beat the boxer that beat barrera, then it could a weakness. He displayed that well enough during the Barrera fight, he became too emotional and it became his downfall. Right now, Manny fights for flag and country, and not over some heated rivalry, so I will have to give this to him.

    Advantage: MANNY

    TRAINER: Not that I am too much credit on reputation, but his success and experience speaks for itself. Freddie Roach is undoubtedly the best trainer in boxing industry today and Manny respects him like no other. Having the best trainer surely gives advantage to a fighter.

    Advantage: MANNY

    TRAINING TIME: with both fighters starting early on, they should be in tip-top shape when they face each other.

    Advantage: DRAW

    Well there you have it guys, a split draw on paper. But certainly hope the real outcome won’t be this way. It should be ERIK or MANNY. No more no less. I just wish all the best of luck to both fighters and to all the fans.
    nice bro: you evaluate them fairly.
    this fight will delivers awesome head to head combat. both fighters are hungry for supremacy.... i hope this would not deliver a draw. both fighters are in shape,they had a lot of time in training...there's no excuses in both fighters...good luck and there is only one last man standing.....who it would be?

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    • Originally posted by bombshell
      nice bro: you evaluate them fairly.
      this fight will delivers awesome head to head combat. both fighters are hungry for supremacy.... i hope this would not deliver a draw. both fighters are in shape,they had a lot of time in training...there's no excuses in both fighters...good luck and there is only one last man standing.....who it would be?
      thank you for the compliment bombshell... any thoughts on who would win???

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      • Originally posted by kadyo
        I just want to get more opinons re pros and cons of the forthcoming pac-em fight so the reply!
        well then regarding the pros and cons i guess air_keng had mentioned them very well. i'l just simply go with his objective assessment.

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        • Originally posted by air_keng
          i made this thread long before i got that .gif on my sig so explains the contradiction... thanks anyway...
          ic. thanks for clearing that out.

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          • Originally posted by Famoso Matador
            I think that morales has a higher chance of winning this fight than Pacquio does. Marquez was knocked down three times in the first round, but after he watched out for the mannys left hand he outboxed manny. I agree that Morales plan should be not to trade,he should use his reach advantage early on and set the tempo. He should win if he just boxes manny. Not to say that manny doesn't have a chance, im sure a lot of people thought he didnt have a chance against barrera. One punch could change everything.
            EM tried the same thing on MAB. but unfortunately, he failed. its not impossible that Pac will do anything to keep the the brawl in close range. my guess is, it'll be a KO by Pacman in the later rounds. this is coz EM is durable and it'll take time to work the wear and tear by Manny.

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            • I think both have a fair chance.

              In this fight i think there will be a different Manny.
              He will be more powerful and faster as well as some new tech. he will show.

              There is going to be a KO for sure.

              As for Morales his style would be the same

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              • This is what I think also. Morales with decent power, decent handspeed, decent footwork has to box and stay in the outside. Morales can never stand up to PAC toe to toe, if he does, he will put himself into a world full of pain.

                Morales will be the same come Jan 21. There won't be too much surprises there. He will use his jab, use his size and try to box PAC and fight on the outside. I don't see Morales trying to trade or he will feel it bad.

                The real surprise will be on PAC's side. They already know what to expect from Morales and what Morales will bring to them. It's up to PAC is he can avoid the jab using lateral movement. It's up to PAC if he can pursue a consistent body attack. Morales at 130 will mean a thinner Morales at the body section. It's up to PAC if he can set Morales up for steady right hooks and flush uppercuts.

                If these are the things which PAC can do, then it will be a very different fight for Morales.

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                • Pac should consistainly move around the ring and use the jab more.

                  Morals is the type of boxer who like to see a fight in front of him like Raheem fight.

                  He should take advantge of his(Pac)speed wear down Morals with a Jab and some bodypunch and then go for the kill

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                  • it depends on what gameplan pac brings into play.. if its the wrong one i see erik outboxing him.. its very close.. i cant wait till i see the fight..

                    I like morales better than pac, but i hope pac wins so he can battle it out with barrera.. this division is explosive..

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