Pro's and Con's: Pacman vs El Terrible

[JaNnO]

I believe this as well. I highly doubt Morales will exchange with Manny. He said it himself that he respects Manny's power and obviously won't make the mistake to trade with someone stronger than you and has put everyone in his title fights on the floor. He said it himself that it will be more of a technical fight and that he's going to prepare very hard for it. I think he's going to do some research as Team Pac will be doing to find flaws within each other's defenses. I think Morales will review the Barrera fight over the Marquez fight because even Morales knows, the Marquez fight was almost like saying Manny's right hand was broken the entire fight that night(and never in the past fights). So it will be a technical fight though I think after the 1st rd of sizing each other up, technicality will go out the window and it's going to be one of the best featherweight fights we'll ever see!!!

i think morales didn't mean what he said. how can he respect pac's power when he hasn't tasted it yet? this was apparent in his recent interview when he said he wanted to know who is the stronger puncher between them. besides his machismo mentality is his weakness, so all indication point to him going toe-to-toe with pac in the early rounds.

[jpboxer3]

i think morales didn't mean what he said. how can he respect pac's power when he hasn't tasted it yet?

I think Pacquiao KO over MAB and 3 devastating KDs of JMM had something to do with it.

[JaNnO]

I think Pacquiao KO over MAB and 3 devastating KDs of JMM had something to do with it.

he thinks he gotta steel chin...i'm pretty sure he'll try to test it against pac's power.

[miron_lang]

Air Keng's post makes a lot of sense indeed. Just to add...

Morales main trust is his reach and uses it from a distance where he is more dangerous. From my experience of watching Morales' fights, he throws more accurate punches from a distance where he could measure his opponent well. Morales also attacks effectively when you face him with your head down, he could dig you down in volume. On the other hand, when he fights close, the upper cut is his most lethal punch. But what is most admirable on Morales' offensive ability is when he sees an opening and hurt you, he would follow it up with fast combinations and no matter how you counter, he will stay on top of you to continue those volume of punches. Morales connecting punches from a distance and punches coming from the top because he is usually taller than his opponents were always easy for the judges to see, that is why he would usually get a decision. We could readily see such scenario on his victories against the smaller ones like Ayala, Chavez and Hernandez.

For Pacquiao to counter Morales' deadly arsenals, he need lots of head and feet movemen plus good defense, fast hands and staying close to Morales.Pac must make a relentless attack every round to throw off Morales from his rhytm. I usually see Morales having trouble fighting at a close distance especially when his opponent has quicker hands than him. He also has trouble dealing with relentless attacks but never to the body, only to the head. When Morales' engaged with In Jin Chi, the Korean would always force him to engage closer that allowed Chi to connect with clear shots to the head in most rounds, that is the reason why his fight with Chi was really competitve than expected. In his last fight with Barrera, Marco avoided a fight from a distance and would always engage Morales toe-to-toe, even though Morales would always be on top of Barrera up close, Barrera had the quicker hands, that is why Barrera won. One good thing that Pacquiao must do that he could follow from Barrera is that Barrera would first allow Morales to throw his deadly right, upon avoiding Morales' right, Barrera would immediately struck a left hitting Morales defenseless.

I believe with Pacquiao's speed, he could beat Morales better than what Barrera showed. The more danger here for Morales is that Pacquiao has powerful fists than Barrera and more relentless than Barrera. Pacquiao's ability in cutting the ring and speed would force Morales to fight close and toe-to-toe with Pacquiao. Besides, when Morales feels the painful blows of Pacquiao, his Mexican machismo instinct would come out and would really slam**** with Pacquiao toe-to-toe, such match for sure would go Pacquiao's way.

I believe Morales has never seen such a fresh yet powerful and faster top opponent than Pacquiao. I never saw Zaragoza, but I saw Morales' fight with Ayala, Barrera, Hernandez, Chi, Espadas twice and Chavez and I could simply say no one comes close to Pac's power and speed. Barrera and Ayala might be more skillful than Pacquiao but Pac is getting more dangerous now with his improving skill that only complements his power and speed.

Pacquiao by late stoppage or decision.

Good post. WELCOME JAWO

[AIR_KENG]

very good analysis!

thanks for the copmplement dude...

[AIR_KENG]

Cong**** to Air Keng for a balanced and sensible analysis, this type of post are what we need.

pinoy ka ba pare? salamat sa karma... saka salamat sa complement... it's always nice to look at bouts on both sides...

[AIR_KENG]

Air Keng's post makes a lot of sense indeed. Just to add...

Morales main trust is his reach and uses it from a distance where he is more dangerous. From my experience of watching Morales' fights, he throws more accurate punches from a distance where he could measure his opponent well. Morales also attacks effectively when you face him with your head down, he could dig you down in volume. On the other hand, when he fights close, the upper cut is his most lethal punch. But what is most admirable on Morales' offensive ability is when he sees an opening and hurt you, he would follow it up with fast combinations and no matter how you counter, he will stay on top of you to continue those volume of punches. Morales connecting punches from a distance and punches coming from the top because he is usually taller than his opponents were always easy for the judges to see, that is why he would usually get a decision. We could readily see such scenario on his victories against the smaller ones like Ayala, Chavez and Hernandez.

For Pacquiao to counter Morales' deadly arsenals, he need lots of head and feet movemen plus good defense, fast hands and staying close to Morales.Pac must make a relentless attack every round to throw off Morales from his rhytm. I usually see Morales having trouble fighting at a close distance especially when his opponent has quicker hands than him. He also has trouble dealing with relentless attacks but never to the body, only to the head. When Morales' engaged with In Jin Chi, the Korean would always force him to engage closer that allowed Chi to connect with clear shots to the head in most rounds, that is the reason why his fight with Chi was really competitve than expected. In his last fight with Barrera, Marco avoided a fight from a distance and would always engage Morales toe-to-toe, even though Morales would always be on top of Barrera up close, Barrera had the quicker hands, that is why Barrera won. One good thing that Pacquiao must do that he could follow from Barrera is that Barrera would first allow Morales to throw his deadly right, upon avoiding Morales' right, Barrera would immediately struck a left hitting Morales defenseless.

I believe with Pacquiao's speed, he could beat Morales better than what Barrera showed. The more danger here for Morales is that Pacquiao has powerful fists than Barrera and more relentless than Barrera. Pacquiao's ability in cutting the ring and speed would force Morales to fight close and toe-to-toe with Pacquiao. Besides, when Morales feels the painful blows of Pacquiao, his Mexican machismo instinct would come out and would really slam**** with Pacquiao toe-to-toe, such match for sure would go Pacquiao's way.

I believe Morales has never seen such a fresh yet powerful and faster top opponent than Pacquiao. I never saw Zaragoza, but I saw Morales' fight with Ayala, Barrera, Hernandez, Chi, Espadas twice and Chavez and I could simply say no one comes close to Pac's power and speed. Barrera and Ayala might be more skillful than Pacquiao but Pac is getting more dangerous now with his improving skill that only complements his power and speed.

Pacquiao by late stoppage or decision.

astig pareng jawo! buo tayo ng grupo, ang mga analitico, hehe... o kaya ang mga matyagang mag type, hehe...

[{BrownBomber}]

Pro’s and Con’s: The Destroyer versus El Terrible

As much as everybody wants to see the Manny Pacquiao-Juan Manuel Marquez rematch, we will rather see a good, if not better, classic match between Erik “El Terrible” Morales and Manny “The Destroyer” Pacquiao.
And as always, every classic battle between 2 of the most exciting fighters of the present time is preceded by much speculation and debate. So toi set things staright, let me sight some pro’s and con’s between these two great athletes.
I have divided this into categories so here goes:

POWER: These two are pretty much at par with regards to punching power. Manny is regarded to have the most devastating killer punch in boxing pound for pound, but on the contrary, he has yet to knock his opponent out with his right. His left is getting so much hype that people tend to underrate the power of his right, which also posseses some power as he displayed in the Barrera fight.
Erik on the other hand, has shown great and balanced punching power in both hands. He can knock opponents out with either hand and does so with tremendous precision and smooth style. Though he does not have that nasty killer blow that Pacquiao has, he greatly makes up for that with some brutal 1-2.

Advantage: DRAW

SPEED: This is quite obvious. With his fast-paced, come-what-may approach, Manny surely wins this category. His handspeed, footwork, bobbing and weaving all complement his attacking style and the early barrage of punches.
Erik is a slow-paced fighter, which may ezplain why he does not have such remarkable handspeed and footwork as Manny does. But it well fits his style of play.

Advantage: MANNY

SIZE AND REACH: Again, this is quite obvious. Erik is going to be the biggest opponent for Manny and may very well be a big factor in the fight. Erik is 2 inches taller than Manny, and has a whopping 4 inch advantage in reach. So this can greatly help the cause of the Mexican sensation.

Advantage: ERIK

ACCURACY: Due mainly to contrast of styles, Erik wins this category by a distance. With his think-now-attack-later approach, he will surely be more accurate in this fight. Manny is usually the aggressor in his fights and will still be in this one so it will probably spell a high number of total punches but very low landing rate.

Advantage: ERIK

STAMINA: This one is a close call. We know both fighters can go the distance. They have been in 10-12 round fights before and made it through. But I have to hand this out to Manny. With all that bobbing and weaving, he displays greater stamina than practically all of the fighters he faced.
Erik also has great stamina, but just like in his two loses to MAB, he tends to show fatigue after he is bombed with a barrage of punches. But this is still a close call.

Advantage: MANNY

EXPERIENCE: Erik’s 3 fights at 130 lbs to Manny’s none. Erik’s 149 championhip rounds to Manny’s 46.Whew! That’s a lot of difference! Experience is backing up Erik’s side without any question. He is more comfortable at the weight class and shown that by being the champion, before losing it to eventual champion, MAB. It will definitely be an advantage for him since he is well adsjusted to the weight class and will need less polishing compared to Pacquiao who is still fighting at 130 lbs for the first time.

Advantage: ERIK

HUNGER: I will have to give this to Erik once more. Coming off a loss, he will surely take it on Manny to regain his rightful place as one of the best, if not the best, featherweight in the world.

Advantage: ERIK

MINDSET: Erik is such an emotional fighter. He looks into battles as something personal and that is something he should win. That explains the hunger he has. But if he is not able to get over the MAB loss and rather take it on Manny, to prove something that he can beat the boxer that beat barrera, then it could a weakness. He displayed that well enough during the Barrera fight, he became too emotional and it became his downfall. Right now, Manny fights for flag and country, and not over some heated rivalry, so I will have to give this to him.

Advantage: MANNY

TRAINER: Not that I am too much credit on reputation, but his success and experience speaks for itself. Freddie Roach is undoubtedly the best trainer in boxing industry today and Manny respects him like no other. Having the best trainer surely gives advantage to a fighter.

Advantage: MANNY

TRAINING TIME: with both fighters starting early on, they should be in tip-top shape when they face each other.

Advantage: DRAW

Well there you have it guys, a split draw on paper. But certainly hope the real outcome won’t be this way. It should be ERIK or MANNY. No more no less. I just wish all the best of luck to both fighters and to all the fans.

Wow this is great! But u forgot the main thing,they both have power and what do need to take that power....... a strong chin and that goes to .....Morales easy. Still i think Manny has a very good chance. U can analyze the size of theis booty holes if u want but it all comes down to fight night. Who will be the better that night? We have to wait and see may the best fighter win.

[AIR_KENG]

Wow this is great! But u forgot the main thing,they both have power and what do need to take that power....... a strong chin and that goes to .....Morales easy. Still i think Manny has a very good chance. U can analyze the size of theis booty holes if u want but it all comes down to fight night. Who will be the better that night? We have to wait and see may the best fighter win.

i just had the urge to at least put in a fair analysis of the fighters and what i thought of them. booty holes? i was quite objective, i think, and i somehow know some boxing so i am not that ****** to include it... but on the contrary, nice of you to point out... i will be including such comparisons when i write some more of these posts, hehe...

p.s. i didn't say who was going to win, i am leaving that to destiny...

[{BrownBomber}]

i just had the urge to at least put in a fair analysis of the fighters and what i thought of them. booty holes? i was quite objective, i think, and i somehow know some boxing so i am not that ****** to include it... but on the contrary, nice of you to point out... i will be including such comparisons when i write some more of these posts, hehe...

p.s. i didn't say who was going to win, i am leaving that to destiny...

Didnt mean anything in a bad way bro.Your post if they r this good r welcome to my eyes anytime.We need more of this,really.
Yes u can tell u know boxing cause this thread is great.keep up the good work.

P.s by destiny u r saying Pac wins right? Just a hunch bro.