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  • peplz
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    #41
    Originally posted by frantic fighter
    If Molina or Ward or Alexander are allowed by the referee to smother their opponents offense than it's okay with me,if you don't like it than it is certainly within your rights to choose not to watch it.However,these are somethings that you can't argue with being bad for boxing: being a dominant american champ is good for boxing,being an articulate unbiased commentator is good for boxing,being an african american boxer who is actually a decent role model certainly isn't bad for boxing.
    Please don't compare what Molina does to what Andre Ward does. Molina is actually breaking the rules and getting away with it. Ward just clinches when he himself is being held by his opponent while punching his way out of the clinch. Molina is holding and hitting. Molina uses the holding to create offense. He is completely dirty. Neither Alexander or Ward are in the same category as Carlos Molina.

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    • frantic fighter
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      #42
      Originally posted by peplz
      Please don't compare what Molina does to what Andre Ward does. Molina is actually breaking the rules and getting away with it. Ward just clinches when he himself is being held by his opponent while punching his way out of the clinch. Molina is holding and hitting. Molina uses the holding to create offense. He is completely dirty. Neither Alexander or Ward are in the same category as Carlos Molina.
      You can try to class it up,call it a lesser of two evils or whatever,but to me it falls along the same line.There are grey areas in all sports and if you are permitted to cross the line and every now and then and get away it, more to you.

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      • Foreign Soil
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        #43
        Originally posted by B-Bomber
        Virgil is absolutely right.

        In the last 3 years Ward fought Chad Dawson ,Carl Froch , Arthur Abraham Sakio Bika and Allan Green , all legit fights.

        In the same period Golovkin fought a contender in Matthew Macklin, then ...

        Nobuhiro Ishida,38 years old, a carrer 154 pounder.

        Gabriel Rosado, another fighter who doesn't belong at 160. Last year he fought Soto Karass. He's solid, but what did he do to get a shot at a belt at 160?.

        Grzegorz Proksa, a guy who went on to lose against Sergio Mora.

        Makoto Fuchigami, who never fought outside of Japan before or after Golovkin

        Lajuan Simon , who came off a loss to Dionisio Miranda

        And the list goes on. Golovkin always looks good, but has fought guys that were there to make him look good.
        I am fairly positive that Ward would have knocked out opponents of a similar level.
        Dawson - not a legit fight
        Froch - very legit fight
        Abraham - barely legit fight
        Bika - barely legit fight
        Green - not a legit fight

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        • twosweethooks
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          #44
          Originally posted by Arakawa Dunn
          If HBO thought GGG could beat Ward right now they would make the fight. Notice how Lampley downplayed the fight big time. Its because he and the suits know Ward would derail the GGG hype train.

          Let Ward get a touched up by Adonis or struggle to make 168 and then HBO will figure the time is right to put GGG in there with Ward.
          so funny

          you should know the term MARINATE mang !!??

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          • illmaticfighter
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            #45
            Originally posted by Foreign Soil
            Dawson - not a legit fight
            Froch - very legit fight
            Abraham - barely legit fight
            Bika - barely legit fight
            Green - not a legit fight
            abraham was a legit fight, so was bika(who holds a belt now) and you forgot kessler

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            • Foreign Soil
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              #46
              Originally posted by illmaticfighter
              abraham was a legit fight, so was bika(who holds a belt now) and you forgot kessler
              Abraham got badly schooled and mentally deflated by Froch. Abraham-Ward was legit because it was a tournament fight. Bika is a paper titlist and has looked worse now than he ever has. Kessler was nearly 4 years ago.

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              • ManOnTheMoon
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                #47
                problem isn't Ward's last 6 opponents, it's that he's only fought 6 times in the last 4 years!

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                • johnnyrambo
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                  #48
                  I like reading articles like this. People that set the record straight in just a few words. I like yur style Mr Hunter, good stuff!

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                  • J The UnBiased
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                    #49
                    Until GGG fights someone of note his team can't say a thing about an established fighter. "stay in your lane".

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                    • J The UnBiased
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                      #50
                      When GGG finally steps foot in the ring with Andre...you're gonna see more flipping and spinning on this site than when Manny turned down testing.

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