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  • HeroBando
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    #211
    Originally posted by Arakawa Dunn
    No you weren't. The majority is not determeined by counting draws against JMM only. I pointed this out when I 1st broke the stats out.

    The number of people polled was 144-you counted 36 against JMM. They weren't against JMM. They were nuetral. SO either don't include them (57>51) or include them for BOTH (93>87).

    Your statement was based, as you admitted, on the draws being counted ONCE. Hence you kept repeating that 87>51. Thats why It was wrong.

    Can you understand this?
    If you have it a draw, you're not having JMM winning. This shouldn't need explanation. 144 scores submitted, only 57 for Marquez. Nowhere near majority.

    Lets say you had 100 draws, 2 had fighter A winning, 1 had fighter B winning. Would you say a majority had A winning? Only if ******ed like Fetta

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #212
      Originally posted by Fetta
      57 out of 144=40% JMM winning
      87 out of 144=60% JMM not winning.

      51 out of 144=35% MP winning
      93 out of 144=65% MP not winning

      I have no idea what they are seeing but OK

      Maybe take out the draws but still 57>51 majority vote for JMM and thats just this little poll. I havent found one where Pac wins the poll
      Its just HeroBando. He knew his statement was wrong and he wouldn't admit it. this is the same poster who went with the "no CW unification fights ever" until someone reminded him of odh v bhop so he changed it to "no cw unfication where fighter fought twice at weight".

      Why is it such a problem for him to admit this I don't know. He is right in saying that the bradley manny fight was a robbery and that far more writers/media polled thought manny beat bradley than thought jmm beat manny.

      He just can't admit that the majority of nuetral boxing media thought JMM beat manny in fights 2 and 3.

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        #213
        Originally posted by Fetta
        lineal champ no matter how you look at it. I would rather be lineal champ then whatever belt Marg had, was it WBO.
        Why didn't Jones fight Michalszewski instead of just being a beltholder?

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        • HeroBando
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          #214
          Originally posted by Arakawa Dunn
          Its just HeroBando. He knew his statement was wrong and he wouldn't admit it. this is the same poster who went with the "no CW unification fights ever" until someone reminded him of odh v bhop so he changed it to "no cw unfication where fighter fought twice at weight".

          Why is it such a problem for him to admit this I don't know. He is right in saying that the bradley manny fight was a robbery and that far more writers/media polled thought manny beat bradley than thought jmm beat manny.

          He just can't admit that the majority of nuetral boxing media thought JMM beat manny in fights 2 and 3.
          Pathetic. I guess I don't need to waste time on someone who makes a ****** support group with Fetta

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          • Fetta
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            #215
            Originally posted by HeroBando
            If you have it a draw, you're not having JMM winning. This shouldn't need explanation. 144 scores submitted, only 57 for Marquez. Nowhere near majority.

            Lets say you had 100 draws, 2 had fighter A winning, 1 had fighter B winning. Would you say a majority had A winning? Only if ******ed like Fetta
            Fine since you need to break it down this way then lets say MORE thought JMM won. Does that make you happy or are you going to try to break it down where 51>57.

            Frustrated again i see. Kid i dont call names so lets act like adults and have a debate. Its all for fun anyway. They are not going to reverse just cause MORE thought JMM won

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            • Fetta
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              #216
              Originally posted by BattlingNelson
              Why didn't Jones fight Michalszewski instead of just being a beltholder?
              I dont know i was just saying. He fought the lineal champ instead which would have been my preference as well. I also dont like that he didnt fight Marg but i dont go all "he ducked" him on it. Thats all

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              • HeroBando
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                #217
                Originally posted by Fetta
                Fine since you need to break it down this way then lets say MORE thought JMM won. Does that make you happy or are you going to try to break it down where 51>57.

                Frustrated again i see. Kid i dont call names so lets act like adults and have a debate. Its all for fun anyway. They are not going to reverse just cause MORE thought JMM won
                Again, whatever argument you guys wanna make, I don't care. But I got called out on a true statement by Dunn, and he's been squirming ever since. I see you jumped in for Flo mo mutual support without knowing what we're talking about

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                  #218
                  Originally posted by HeroBando
                  If you have it a draw, you're not having JMM winning. This shouldn't need explanation. 144 scores submitted, only 57 for Marquez. Nowhere near majority.

                  Lets say you had 100 draws, 2 had fighter A winning, 1 had fighter B winning. Would you say a majority had A winning? Only if ******ed like Fetta
                  You also don't have him losing. right? 144 scores submitted-57 for JMM, 51 for Pac, 36 even. You are trying to make the 36 scores count one way. Thats impossible.

                  You are defining majority as greater than 50%. that only works if you have 2 choices. There are 3 choices-JMM, manny or even. If you want to know what majority would be if there were only 2 choices you must control for the 3rd choice.

                  This is done by either removing it or assigning it to both parties. I did it both ways to show you that JMM achieves the majority as you are defining it. No more no less.

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                    #219
                    Originally posted by Fetta
                    I dont know i was just saying. He fought the lineal champ instead which would have been my preference as well. I also dont like that he didnt fight Marg but i dont go all "he ducked" him on it. Thats all
                    He fought Baldo because it was the easier fight and he legitimzed it by claiming that linearity is better than a real challenge. Everybody knows and knew that Margarito was a tougher fight.

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                    • HeroBando
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                      #220
                      Originally posted by Arakawa Dunn
                      You also don't have him losing. right? 144 scores submitted-57 for JMM, 51 for Pac, 36 even. You are trying to make the 36 scores count one way. Thats impossible.

                      You are defining majority as greater than 50%. that only works if you have 2 choices. There are 3 choices-JMM, manny or even. If you want to know what majority would be if there were only 2 choices you must control for the 3rd choice.

                      This is done by either removing it or assigning it to both parties. I did it both ways to show you that JMM achieves the majority as you are defining it. No more no less.
                      Such a bitter pill to swallow, that a press row majority did not have JMM winning. With much hard work and dedication maybe you can make 57 > 87

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