Comments Thread For: Sulaiman: Floyd-Canelo Winner Should Face Pacquiao

[The Big Dunn]

what he said was that a majority though that JMM didn't win = a majority thought that Pac won or a draw

Can you see how that staement is false?

[HeroBando]

you said you didn't say anything about Pac. now your saying you said that a majority of those polled thought it was a draw or Pac won. which is it?

The stats clearly show the majority thought JMM won or it was a draw.

Rasdun can you see now what kind of dude herobando is?

Rasdun reframed it in Pac terms, which is logically equivalent, just more cumbersome. I never said it, but I'll say it right now:

A majority of those polled thought it was a draw or Pac won.

So I'll stand behind that. go ahead and deny, then backtrack a little.

[Fetta]

even before he moved up he fought the rematches with barera and JMM who wwere both rated higher than Guzman. you can't claim someone is being ducked if the "ducker" is fighting guys that are perceived by most to be better fighters

So when Floyd "ducked" Marg to fight Oscar its cause everyone thought Marg was better than Oscar?

[HeroBando]

Can you see how that staement is false?

57 > 87 where you're from?

[rasdun]

Can you see how that staement is false?

that what statement is false? a majority of press row didn't have JMM winning? that's true bc a draw is not a win. so, since more people had either a draw or Pac won, more than 1/2 didn't think JMM, ergo, a majority didn't believe JMM won.
you guys are all getting into semantics.
it's obvious that more thought that JMM won over JMM, BUT, a majority didn't think JMM won bc of how many thought it was a draw.
see, really, a majority didn't think JMM and a Majority didn't think Pac. of those surveyed 39.5% had JMM winning

[The Big Dunn]

You're just desperate to invent some argument for me, that you can knock down. Classic strawman tactics. I didn't offer an analysis, all I said is that a majority of the press scores did not have Marquez winning. And I'm obviously right, don't need advanced math for that: 87 > 57.

no, i simply refuted your post with the same stats you posted. if you had made a factual argument I'd have had nothing to refute. If you had been honest and said something like:

"The slight majority thought JMM won or it was a draw" or "even though more writers/media thouht JMM won there was also a significant portion that hought Manny won or it was a draw" then I'd have had nothing to say.

I'll do it in a way you should understand: 93>87, 93>51, and 87>57.

[rasdun]

So when Floyd "ducked" Marg to fight Oscar its cause everyone thought Marg was better than Oscar?

anyone that thinks May ducked Margarito when he fought de la hoya is foolish. but he should've fought Margarito instead of Baldomir

[Zeus Molecules]

also, Zahir Raheem feared? ok

In the sense that unless you knocked him out he made you look bad. He was slick, but not unwatchable like Winky Wright. Winky was "feared" for the same reason.

Raheem sonned Rocky Juarez and got robbed. He also took Erik Morales to school right after he had just beat Pac.

[The Big Dunn]

Rasdun reframed it in Pac terms, which is logically equivalent, just more cumbersome. I never said it, but I'll say it right now:

A majority of those polled thought it was a draw or Pac won.

So I'll stand behind that. go ahead and deny, then backtrack a little.

Of the 144 polled: 87 thought it was a draw or Pac won while 93 thought it was a draw or JMM won. Since 93>87, the bolded post above is incorrect. THe correct sentence is:

A majority of those polled thought it was a draw or JMM won.

ANother way to put it: A majority of those polled thought it was a draw or Manny LOST.

[Zeus Molecules]

anyone that thinks May ducked Margarito when he fought de la hoya is foolish. but he should've fought Margarito instead of Baldomir

Totally agree with that statement. Money should have fought Margs instead Baldomir.