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  • #21
    Originally posted by smifnwessun View Post
    Another lamb is brought to the slaughter thanks goldenboy for this sacrifical lamb how many times have we seen these young mexican champions offered up by GOldenboy time and time again they are brought up for a slaughter.....and the thing is these fighters know if they llose goldenboy is going to drop them by the way side......i think this fight will go the distance floyd will expose this kids experience....this dude is 23 thats super young against a grown man who has an iron will.
    @ the Guerrero gif. Jim Gray is a cold SOB.

    And just like that, the Guerrero clan are irrelevant.

    It reminds me of this gif:

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    • #22
      I don't think that's a good fight to study.

      I don't think Mayweather was 100% going into that fight.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by harwri008 View Post
        I don't agree it was a blue print for beating Mayweather. I think Mayweather was in total control in that fight but Cotto did have some success against him. It wasn't fight changing success but it was just surprising to see. People said Oscar was successful against Mayweather but all I remember was Oscar pinning him on the ropes with one hand, and hitting him to the body. But not everyone saw those sneaker counters he was taking in return. Once Oscar got tired and couldn't do it any more, Mayweather took over the fight around the 7th round and didn't lose a round after. A better fight to look at is the Hatton fight. He had the right strategy of mauling Mayweather, but he just wasn't offensive enough. Not to mention he got frustrated and walked right into a check hook. If you can pressure Mayweather relentlessly, throwing 60 - 80 punches a round, not get frustrated from missing shots, taking sneaky elbows, and well timed counters... Also have a plan B, C, and D if that doesn't work, you might have a shot of beating him.


        Agreed,,, Its interesting and missleading that people are reffering to Cotto vs Mayweather as a "blue print", i posted the most "successful" (for ths discussion Im going to have to use "qutation marks a lot") round cotto had and in my opinion he was unsure, wreckless and unsuccessful for the most part while floyd was not even bothered, nor hurt and landed some good shots of his own.

        I believe people are reffering to "blue print" or "success" vs mayweather in terms of: what may win the round for you in the "Eyes" of the judges...

        There is no formula or blue print but the fight I think showed a situation in which Floyd was concerned was the early rounds of the Judah fight. Not saying judah had a lot of success but floyd did feel uncomfortable with judahs speed enough to keep his guard unconventionally high for floyd.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
          I don't think that's a good fight to study.

          I don't think Mayweather was 100% going into that fight.
          Do you wish to elaborate why?

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          • #25
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
            I don't think that's a good fight to study.

            I don't think Mayweather was 100% going into that fight.
            This!! You could tell something was off in the dressing room when richard steele was giving instructions. He also wasn't as explosive during the fight. I believe the fight would have been more like the 12th round if he was indeed 100%

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Picozo View Post
              Do you wish to elaborate why?
              On fight week he looked as if he was under the weather to me. Then it came out after the fight he wasn't well a week out from the fight.

              Things like the "hand injury" and "overtraining" I have no idea on but when it came out that he wasn't well prior to the fight, it was something I thought I'd already noticed.

              That's just my opinion though.

              He seemed more sluggish than usual. Then again, that could be the weight. He's never looked great above 147.

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              • #27
                It really doesnt matter because Mayweather's style varies from fight to fight depending on what he sees in front of him and what he can exploit. He fought Guerrero different, Ortiz different, Hatton different. He makes adjusments accordingly. He's not 1 of those fighters who does the same thing no matter who the opponent is.

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                • #28
                  Good for Canelo. I hope he can put a good performance at least.

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                  • #29
                    Better to study guerrero, floyd going to be on his toes this fight, he was stationary cause of roger was like, box that so and so

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                    • #30
                      I love Al but he's wrong and so is everyone else who thinks Cotto had the blueprint or that Floyd didnt allow Cotto to do what he did. Floyd fought Cotto like he fought the last few guys he had fought. He was just a much more aggressive, flat footed fighter and he thought he could do that to anyone. He's back to moving now. Cotto wouldnt have had much success if Floyd moved all night.

                      Now later in the fight Cotto might did start to set his will in on Floyd and it wasnt all by Floyd's choice then but thats because of the way the fight started. The tone had already been set. Floyd is not going to fight that way anymore and definitely not against a big monster like Canelo.

                      Also, the Floyd leaning to his right after the right hand stuff is false. You see Floyd do that alot but its always against Soutpaws because after you throw that shot you are right in the alley of there power so he's ducking out of harms way. Its different against a righty. Floyd wont be leaning or ducking to the right after he throws a straight right against Canelo

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