Canelo's key to victory is DEFENSE, not offense

[cupocity303]

If you don't take anything from this Thread, take this:

Either way it goes, this fight will be a SPLIT DECISION type of match. Canelo won't KO Floyd, Floyd won't Ko Canelo. No, Floyd will not dominate him like he is Baldomir, or Guerrero or even Mosley.

Boxingscene Thread Titles from the Future will be:

-Canelo got robbed, biggest robbery in history, OMG!!!-

-Canelo won, Floyd CLEARLY LOS


If Canelo pulls off the victory, you won't have as many, "Floyd Mayweather got robbed" type of threads because the collective Forum land will be in a state of shock and make celebratory threads that he finally lost. The few "Floyd got robbed" threads that do get made, will be crowded out by happy-that-floyd-got-beat Threads.

[Chris T Byrd]

Replaying the Canelo-Trout fight, the commentary doesn't match what's happening in the ring (just listen to Malignaggie and Al Bernstein: When he is not punching and using defense, he is tired and needs to be more active.), spoon feeding some of our lower IQ members to believe that Alvarez is just slightly better than your run-off-the-mill plodding Mexican. It didn't fit the narrative that he actually displayed great (underrated) defense, which is what won him the fight more so than the offense - against a much taller, southpaw, Slick-Boxing type fighter. That's the narrative if you look at some of the comments made for this fight; That this fight will be one-sided drubbing (nonsense, this fight has a close, split decision written all over it); That Canelo will have to be Ultra-Aggressive and "put pressure" on Floyd to win the fight. That this is all he can do or has to do to win the fight.

No, it's actually the opposite. What he needs to do is NOT put pressure on Floyd to win the fight. What you're doing with that preconceived notion is basically giving away half the victory. It's almost like some feel that Floyd himself doesn't have to be really OFFENSIVE and try to land punches, but only his opponent does. NONSENSE. What Canelo needs to do is NOT fall into Floyd's trap by coming forward, making him look good by backing up and using his traditional defense & counter. What he needs to do is use that previously mentioned defense and keep the fight in the middle of the ring, making it a low-connect percentage Chess match. And if Floyd wants to or feels compelled to come forward ( a la Vs Zab Judah & Sharmbe Mitchell), then let him do it. Otherwise, stay in the middle of the ring.

It's almost like some feel that all Floyd himself has to do is coast and react off of what his opponent is trying to do, forgetting that he himself has to also be impressive offensively & land clean punches. And we all know that he is at his most impressive when half the work is being done for him, with his opponent obliging him by trying too hard with pressure and combination punch attempts (unless is a C level fighter like Gatti. This is where Gatti tried to Box and Floyd was ultra-offensive, displaying his entire arsenal of punches. NO, Alvarez is not Gatti).

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[!! Shawn]

What Canelo needs to do is get inside on Floyd in the early rounds so that he can put his weight on him on the clenches, and tire out Floyds much older legs to give himself an advantage later in the fight. He will need to use his defense coming in to do that.

After he takes away some of the bounce from Floyds legs, the steam will come off his punches, and he can risk being more much more aggressive in the later rounds.

One of Floyds greatest strengths is that he hits just hard enough off the counter to keep people honest.

He needs to keep Floyd at the end his his jab off of everything like Cotto did, especially in combinations. The jab sets up everything in tight against floyd. You have to stand him up and put him off balance with it, or you won't get anything done.

He also needs to focus on speed early, atleast until he can take enough out of Floyds legs to start laying in some heavier work.

Most importantly, especially early, he needs to punch with Floyd, even if there isn't anything there to find.

Floyd WILL lead early, he's not going to Wait on Canelo. He's going to try and hit him and turn him to take advantage of Canelo's slower feet. Thats why its so important that he take away Floyd's legs.

[DoubleMM]

to anyone saying canelo doesn't need to be aggresive, I can assure you he will be peppered with lead right hands to the body and head and lose all the rounds if he attempts that.

[kadyo's]

Maybe team canelo followed the advise of cupo after reading this thread.

[A-Wolf]

Maybe team canelo followed the advise of cupo after reading this thread.

^^^^^^^^^^ lol

[IronDanHamza]

Expecting Canelo to outbox Mayweather or compete with him in the centre of the ring is like expecting Amir Khan to outslug Matthysse.

Suicidal.

[#YOLO]

Canelo had the right gameplan for his skillset and he found out he was just not good enough.

[cupocity303]

Maybe team canelo followed the advise of cupo after reading this thread.

Yes they did.

I actually liked what he was doing the first few rounds. He didn't try to overcommit with punches and aggression and defended real well (even Slick-black boxer preferring Malignaggie acknowledged it during commentary).

But it went downhill from there. The 'hater' might blame it on the weight loss but I will give Floyd's superior skills credit for it.

[A-Wolf]

Canelo had the right gameplan for his skillset and he found out he was just not good enough.

Yes trying to outbox Mayweather was a genius plan.