Comments Thread For: Mayweather: I Don't Get Enough Credit For My Wins

[LAFIRPO]

I see what you saying and you make valid points but I think you are comparing things beyond his and any one else's control, They are from different era's obviously they overlap the same way Canelo overlaps with Floyd...


AThis being said, im not so sure De La Hoya Beats who Floyd beat but im more positive Mayweather beats who Dela hoya beat

Guerrero, Hatton, Cotto are 3 guys I think could of beat Dela, add to that Dela was not undefeated like Floyd...

And like you, I have opinions, one being that I think Pernel beat Dela and I feel Trout beat Canelo...


Everyone has there opinion and every era is compared to other eras...

The only stat that matters is that Floyd never lost and gets no credit because for wins because hes made things look relatively easy...

Assumptions don't mean anything. The only thing that matters is what ACTUALLY happens. You think Guerreo, Cotto, and Hatton could beat De La Hoya, but are you 100% sure they would??

You can't be, because you're not clairvoyant.

You can't possibly know who will win until THEY actually fight.

How would have thought Gonzalez was going to KO Mares in 1 round?? Nobody, but it happened.

I give Mayweather credit, just not as much as some other people do.

I also think that there was better competition to fight and Mayweather for whatever reason didn't fight them.

Think about this for just on second.

Mayweather fought everyone at 140 for the exception of the Tyzu who was the best 140 pounder in the world at that time.

At 147, Mayweather never fought Manny who was considered to be (depending on who you ask) to be the 1 or 2 fighter in the division. At 154 Mayweather beat Cotto who's best win at 154 came against Foreman.

Would Mayweather beat these guys??? Maybe, probably, who the hell knows. There is only one way to find out, and that is to fight them.

However, I do believe that Canelo is the most dangerous opponent he has faced in years.

[junior gong]

Of course fight Pac till he beats him and then Pac joins the others in the "bum" pile. Always the same....ALWAYS. You dont think the others had fans too that claimed Floyd was afraid and would lose?

Only difference thid time is Canelo is read deal and will show that Sept 14th. "Biggest threat in years" i been reading from a few but if Canelo loses, which i dont think he will, then he will join the "bum" pile too. To bad that wont happen to prove my point

Its all about those CW's you like so much, cheesy fetta...all about the CW's.

[HarvardBlue]

See post #67.

You seem to agree that his resume is good if not great but you fall into the trap that the people that don't like him like to bring up because he didn't fight this guy or that guy. There's a lot of reasons these fights didn't take place. If he was so selective in choosing his opponents why didn't he choose lesser opponents. Sergio Martinez gets great credit for fighting lesser talent. Would Floyd get the same benefit?

[Fetta]

Its all about those CW's you like so much, cheesy fetta...all about the CW's.

I dont like CW's but i dont make a big deal about them like you. The "future" signed contract so he knows what it is. Just worry about your precious Floyd cause when he loses what will your hating life do then. Cause we all know you dont like boxing

[The Noose]

Well, I see what you're saying, but at the same time I'd want to know the context in which he said it. If he was specifically talking about his opponents, then you have a point. But I do want to give Floyd credit and say that I am blown away at his work ethic in training. I have HUGE respect for the way he "pushes himself" in that sense, and wondered if he could've meant that sort of thing. If not, I concede, I guess, that he could go up in weight class seeking a tougher challenge, but ... I'm just saying that whatever criticism one might make of Floyd, it should NEVER be said that he has been lazy in any way. He has been a total inspiration when it comes to "hard work... dedication".

(Again, not saying you were claiming otherwise, Noose. Just clarifying.)

i agree 100%.

the work he has to put in for every fight to remain as good as he is is remarkable.

[junior gong]

You seem to agree that his resume is good if not great but you fall into the trap that the people that don't like him like to bring up because he didn't fight this guy or that guy. There's a lot of reasons these fights didn't take place. If he was so selective in choosing his opponents why didn't he choose lesser opponents. Sergio Martinez gets great credit for fighting lesser talent. Would Floyd get the same benefit?

That'll be 99% of real boxing fans then. Great fighters are remembered as being great because of who they fought and sought out the biggest challenges, not avoided them and come with a bunch of excuses.

Floyd has been doing the swerve for most of his career and thats how fans, not flomboners, but fans see him and how he will be remembered.

[junior gong]

I dont like CW's but i dont make a big deal about them like you. The "future" signed contract so he knows what it is. Just worry about your precious Floyd cause when he loses what will your hating life do then. Cause we all know you dont like boxing

We got another zelenoffer!

[Fetta]

We got another zelenoffer!

Yeah read that the first time you used it and second and third

[flint]

just keep winning and getting paid champ.

[Hop]

You seem to agree that his resume is good if not great but you fall into the trap that the people that don't like him like to bring up because he didn't fight this guy or that guy. There's a lot of reasons these fights didn't take place. If he was so selective in choosing his opponents why didn't he choose lesser opponents. Sergio Martinez gets great credit for fighting lesser talent. Would Floyd get the same benefit?

To be honest, Harwri008, I think you have become defensive when it comes to Floyd for some reason (is he your favorite, perhaps?) and say things that just aren't true. All I did was state the facts of Floyd's record. That's it. I even said that I (or you or most people) don't know all that went into certain fights being made or not made. Also, I've never heard Martinez "get credit for fighting lesser talent". It seems to me you're just clinging to things that prop up Floyd, beyond what you need to. He's great, we just wish, for example we could have seen him fight ...

A) a prime Pacquiao
B) a younger Mosley
C) a younger Cotto
D) maybe Paul Williams

Etc.

Did you hear me lay all the blame with Floyd & Co.? No. BTW, I have given Floyd his just due for taking & making this Canelo Alvarez fight -- just so you know.

I've got work I need to do, so I'll be away from the keyboard. But all good wishes ... sincerely.