Comments Thread For: Mayweather: I Don't Get Enough Credit For My Wins

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  • peplz
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    #241
    Originally posted by The Noose
    I want Floyd to show us how great he is. He is no ordinary welter. I believe, if he handles welters and jnr middles with such ease, why not take on a middleweight?
    With his style, i dont see him taking a beating. He has shown us many times, its not about size. His skill and ability to adapt means he could out box much bigger men.
    There are a such thing as weight divisions for a reason.

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    • The Noose
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      #242
      Originally posted by peplz
      There are a such thing as weight divisions for a reason.
      I dont understand how that is a response to my post. Feel free to elaborate.

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      • InSaiyan
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        #243
        Originally posted by The Noose
        I dont understand how that is a response to my post. Feel free to elaborate.
        im not seeing how he is handling junior middleweights with ease. cotto and part time delahoya gave him his toughest fights

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        • The Noose
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          #244
          Originally posted by InSaiyan
          im not seeing how he is handling junior middleweights with ease. cotto and part time delahoya gave him his toughest fights
          Oscar was not a tough fight at all IMO. I dont believe it was a SD. And again with Cotto, he won almost every round.

          But yes, Cotto did challenge him. I feel he underestimated Cotto. But also that Cotto fought a smart fight and chose the right tactics. Im not saying Floyd would beat every MW, but he could win a belt. And they would be a challenge where for once, a Floyd victory would be in doubt. And surely that is what a real challenge is all about. Not being a huge favourite everytime.

          I dont think Canel will challenge him, but we will see.

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          • InSaiyan
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            #245
            Originally posted by The Noose
            Oscar was not a tough fight at all IMO. I dont believe it was a SD. And again with Cotto, he won almost every round.

            But yes, Cotto did challenge him. I feel he underestimated Cotto. But also that Cotto fought a smart fight and chose the right tactics. Im not saying Floyd would beat every MW, but he could win a belt. And they would be a challenge where for once, a Floyd victory would be in doubt. And surely that is what a real challenge is all about. Not being a huge favourite everytime.

            I dont think Canel will challenge him, but we will see.
            Oscar and Cotto were both 8-4 fights for Mayweather for me. Who on earth could he possibly fight at middleweight? Golovkin and Martinez are HBO and

            Kid Chocolate would KO him IMO. Floyd is a small welter

            I don't see it

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            • TLC8
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              #246
              Has Nothing To Do With How Old They Are; Has Everything To Do With WHEN U Fought Them

              Floyd never wanted to fight Cotto or Mosley in the prime. He never wanted to fight Pacquiao in his prime and STILL doesn't want to fight him. He fought only Oscar in his prime, most felt Oscar won that fight, and Floyd walked away from $25m for a rematch. He only chose to fight Marquez when he could outweight him by 25 lbs. he would never go up and fight Sergio Martinez in his prime; Ray Leonard went up and fought Hagler after 5 years of retirement and NO tune up fight. Floyd doesn't have ballz that big. So Floyd spins his gripe, plays on words for not getting his due credit. Floyd made Cotto and Mosley wait more than 10 years to fight. He waits till he thinks they've had too many wars, till other fights have collectively taken a noticeable toll on a guy then he climbs in to put their name on his résumé. Has nothing to do with how old they are, it has everything to do with how many wars they've had. Floyd brags he's been around for 17 years, but he never took the risks in the ring that Oscar, Mosley, Pacquiao, Cotto, Marquez took in the prime of their career against the best on Boxing in THEIR prime.

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              • Atsui des
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                #247
                Originally posted by harwri008
                The key word I used in my post is that the criticism is usually based on whether you like him or not. That means my statement is not all inclusive. So congratulations you're one of the exceptions to that rule. Second, you said yourself, we don't know what the outcome would be if the fights take place when all these boxers were in their prime. Yet, somehow, to me at least, it seems most of the time when someone make that claim it's almost with certainty that the he would have lost all those fights. Cotto, Oscar, and Mosely lost fights before and after they fought they fought Mayweather. Yet the most often times someone make the claim about them being in their primes is only when it comes to Mayweather. Pacquiao beat all those people, no one said hardly a word about them not being prime. Again, the prime argument, is simply a disguise for I'm not a fan so I'm hating. Fine, I get it. But if that's the route you or anyone is taking at least let it be known. Finally, it might seem like I'm going hard defending Mayweather. But to be honest with you I have some of the same criticism about him. But I approach it as a fan of boxing fan and wanting to see the best fights available, rather than being a Mayweather cheerleader or hater.
                So,you are a fan.I respect that. I'll respect you as well for admitting being a Floyd fan. What's wrong with being his fan. As long as you are not a blind fan who twisting fact and revising history only to validate some ****** argument. We all can talk with respect. I'm a big fan of Chavez and Tszyu myself.
                Regardless, we are talking about credit for certain fighter here. Not if Floyd must be loss by him or that. There are no such thing such as Floyd must be lost to PAC , Martinez, and vice versa such as Floyd would school PAC and Canelo. We only make prediction based on our favor and analysis. If the outcome is 100% there will be no one betting against the odds then.
                So there is no point babbling about how Floyd should get the credit by the fight that already a past, you cannot turn the time backward. The only way to earn his required credit to be considered ATG is by beating all the best fighter at the very present moment should the time allow since he is the no.1 pfp now.

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                  #248
                  Originally posted by Atsui des
                  So,you are a fan.I respect that. I'll respect you as well for admitting being a Floyd fan. What's wrong with being his fan. As long as you are not a blind fan who twisting fact and revising history only to validate some ****** argument. We all can talk with respect. I'm a big fan of Chavez and Tszyu myself.
                  Regardless, we are talking about credit for certain fighter here. Not if Floyd must be loss by him or that. There are no such thing such as Floyd must be lost to PAC , Martinez, and vice versa such as Floyd would school PAC and Canelo. We only make prediction based on our favor and analysis. If the outcome is 100% there will be no one betting against the odds then.
                  So there is no point babbling about how Floyd should get the credit by the fight that already a past, you cannot turn the time backward. The only way to earn his required credit to be considered ATG is by beating all the best fighter at the very present moment should the time allow since he is the no.1 pfp now.
                  I wouldn't be ashamed to say I'm a fan of Mayweather but I'm about as close to being fan of his you can get. When he completely rid himself of the Pretty Boy Floyd persona I will be a true fan but for now I'll just enjoy watching him fight. The only boxers I can say I've been a fan of is Aaron Pryor and Pernell Whitaker. There's a long list of other boxers I like to see fight and Mayweather is at the top of the list. With that being said, much respect. Good first effort on your posts. You definitely have a lot to contribute to this site.

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