My Top 20 All Time

[InSaiyan]

Reasons?

Also, to guys like RustyDan who don't have Ali in their top 10 and to guys like K-Dogg who don't even have him top 20 but have guys like Charles and Moore...why is he not there?

Seriously, the man has one of the best resumes ever, easily a top 5 resume irregardless of weight class, he was the number one heavyweight in the golden age of the division. I can only say that about Robinson being the number one in what was the greatest mw generation ever. How anyone can justify Ali not being at the very least a top 10 is beyond me.

I'm all ears to your reasons.

Charles beat Joe Louis and Archie Moore, on top of guys like Gus Lesnevich, Charley Burley and friggin Loyd Marshall!! and was the greatest light heavyweight to ever live. That's why he is there, and Hopkins is not.

[soul_survivor]

Greb is hands-down greater than Ali. Langford is undoubtedly top 10, and Moore is top 10 or close to it. I have Ali at #7 but there are clearly fighters greater than him.

Hands down is a phrase that requires reasoning, if you had said it was a close call then no problem, but I'd need a solid bit of reasoning why Greb is better than Ali? It's time to put up or shut up.

[soul_survivor]

Charles beat Joe Louis and Archie Moore, on top of guys like Gus Lesnevich, Charley Burley and friggin Loyd Marshall!! and was the greatest light heavyweight to ever live. That's why he is there, and Hopkins is not.

You don't understand what I wrote, I was speaking to the guys not ranking Ali in the top 20 or top 10. I'm asking you why Chavez and Hopkins shouldn't be in a top 20, two different questions mate

[InSaiyan]

You don't understand what I wrote, I was speaking to the guys not ranking Ali in the top 20 or top 10. I'm asking you why Chavez and Hopkins shouldn't be in a top 20, two different questions mate

Ah alright.

[itsafight]

How is Amir Khan not on this list?

[soul_survivor]

How is Amir Khan not on this list?

i was going to have him at one..........but then i woke up

[SBleeder]

Hands down is a phrase that requires reasoning, if you had said it was a close call then no problem, but I'd need a solid bit of reasoning why Greb is better than Ali? It's time to put up or shut up.

Mickey Walker
Battling Levinsky
Leo Houck
Willie Meehan
Tiger Flowers
Billy Miske
Al McCoy
Augie Ratner
George Chip
Tommy Gibbons
Johnny Wilson
Jack Dillon
Jimmy Darcy
Jimmy Slattery
Tommy Loughran
Mike Gibbons
Kid Norfolk
Maxie Rosenbloom
AND Gene Tunney


That's why.

How is Amir Khan not on this list?

He was #21 for me.

[Humean]

Hopkins doesn't belong in top 20. Hopkins is a great but he should really be a struggle to fit in a top 100 nevermind be in a top 20. Hopkins of course gets added points for his light heavyweight performances but the very best middleweight in history should definitely be ahead of him: namely Monzon, and a case could be made for Cerdan, LaMotta, Benvenuti, Griffith, Basilio, Fullmer and **** Tiger ahead of Hopkins.

I'm not doing a top 20 as it is far too difficult especially as I am uncomfortable comparing fighters I have never seen or only seen in little bits and pieces with bad quality video with others where it is easier to judge. I will say one thing though, I think the best fighters from the first three decades of the 20th century are perhaps overrated by the history buffs.

[SBleeder]

I think the best fighters from the first three decades of the 20th century are perhaps overrated by the history buffs.

Why do you think this?

[IronDanHamza]

Wow that's a terrible list, no offence but Greb and Moore above Ali? Langford...Like seriously, you don't even have Ali top 10? I think you're trying too hard, that's quite honestly one of the worst lists I have ever seen.

I wouldn't argue if someone had Ali in the Top 10 but he's not in mine. Everyone I've ranked in the Top 10 has a better resume IMO.

You highlight Greb and Moore but they clearly have better resumes than Ali. Especially Greb.

if that's one of the worst lists you've seen you should look harder. I'm not surprised you feel that way, though.