My Top 20 All Time

[Rome-By-Ko]

It means he avoided him.

It was presented and he avoided him to fight lesser opponents how isn't that a duck?

Has to be a good reason,if the money was right..The fight would have happened..

[IronDanHamza]

Has to be a good reason,if the money was right..The fight would have happened..

Would it? You know this how?

How much money did he get for fighting some of the guys he fought instead? How much did he get for Fireman Jim Flynn in comparison? How much for Frank Moran?

Why does it have to be a good reason? Maybe he didn't want to fight him?

[Rome-By-Ko]

Would it? You know this how?

How much money did he get for fighting some of the guys he fought instead? How much did he get for Fireman Jim Flynn in comparison? How much for Frank Moran?

Why does it have to be a good reason? Maybe he didn't want to fight him?

Maybe,still does not mean he ducked him,esp when he already beat him..

[IronDanHamza]

Maybe,still does not mean he ducked him,esp when he already beat him..

He beat him in 1906, Langford was a MW then, less than a MW. He had like 30 lbs on him.

When Langford got himself into position for the rematch he was a legitimate HW.

[bklynboy]

It means he avoided him.

It was presented and he avoided him to fight lesser opponents how isn't that a duck?

I think Johnson did *avoid* Langford. He was in mid-30s, past prime and still wanted some easy paydays. The question is: "is avoiding == to ducking?"

If the answer is yes then he ducked Langford.

I think it's splitting hairs here and it all comes down to how you want to look at it. If you look at it as past-prime fighter looking for a few more easy paydays then JJ "avoided" Langford. If you look at it as still-on-top-of-his-game champion not wanting to take a chance then he "ducked" Langford.

[IronDanHamza]

I think Johnson did *avoid* Langford. He was in mid-30s, past prime and still wanted some easy paydays. The question is: "is avoiding == to ducking?"

If the answer is yes then he ducked Langford.

I think it's splitting hairs here and it all comes down to how you want to look at it. If you look at it as past-prime fighter looking for a few more easy paydays then JJ "avoided" Langford. If you look at it as still-on-top-of-his-game champion not wanting to take a chance then he "ducked" Langford.

I can agree with that.

[Rome-By-Ko]

I think Johnson did *avoid* Langford. He was in mid-30s, past prime and still wanted some easy paydays. The question is: "is avoiding == to ducking?"

If the answer is yes then he ducked Langford.

I think it's splitting hairs here and it all comes down to how you want to look at it. If you look at it as past-prime fighter looking for a few more easy paydays then JJ "avoided" Langford. If you look at it as still-on-top-of-his-game champion not wanting to take a chance then he "ducked" Langford.

I can agree with that.

Fair enough..

[Boxing Goat]

Hopkins has more titles, longer reign and a better resume, I can't see it any other way tbh. RJJ had two truly top level names on his resume in his prime where he could have had more. Skill and talent wise he was THE fighter from 94-probably 2000 but the way he fell off is ridiculous.

Roy lost when he was 35 years old and was basically 51-0 before he lost. He had beaten 15 or so current or former world champions, several HOF'rs and two ATG's. Then he went up and won a heavyweight title when starting his career at 153 lbs.

Everyone knows a win over Hopkins in 93' was much more meaningful than a win over shot Jones in 2010.

It's fine that you rank Hopkins higher than Roy, but to rank him 47th with the fighters you ranked ahead of him is pitiful.

No offense, but that list is one of the worst I've ever seen.

Benny Leonard in the top ten, LOL til I cry with that.

[Pacquiao'd]

PAC over Floyd is funny when hes fought of bunch of cans and losers, his run at ww is laughable but decent list

[soul_survivor]

Roy lost when he was 35 years old and was basically 51-0 before he lost. He had beaten 15 or so current or former world champions, several HOF'rs and two ATG's. Then he went up and won a heavyweight title when starting his career at 153 lbs.

Everyone knows a win over Hopkins in 93' was much more meaningful than a win over shot Jones in 2010.

It's fine that you rank Hopkins higher than Roy, but to rank him 47th with the fighters you ranked ahead of him is pitiful.

No offense, but that list is one of the worst I've ever seen.

Benny Leonard in the top ten, LOL til I cry with that.

What are these HOFers that RJJ supposedly fought in his prime? ATGs? I only count two.

Listen I'm a huge RJ fann but he just can't be ranked in the top half of any top 50 list, I just don't see it. Yes he won a title at hw, that's a big deal in my eyes but noway was that anywhere near a legit world "championship" and you know it.

Terrible list? I doubt it lol After I made my own list, I actually checked it with lists of some guys who I really respect in the sport and there's are pretty damn close. I'm not just blowing this out my arse, I actually know what I'm talking about.

But if it's such a bad list, you can make your own researched top 50 and see how you rank guys compared to me, till then, shut it.

PAC over Floyd is funny when hes fought of bunch of cans and losers, his run at ww is laughable but decent list

I'm not gona get into the whole Manny/Floyd argument, for me, that's not what this list is about, there's at least a million threads on here discussing that **** topic