Ali vs wlad. Who wins

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • beez721
    Undisputed Champion
    Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
    • Aug 2005
    • 9637
    • 252
    • 55
    • 16,400

    #51
    Originally posted by LacedUp
    Which is why I have been moving on to the history section more and more. You should come along a bit more often.
    yea,,,I wish there was more chatter in that section

    Comment

    • LacedUp
      Still Smokin'
      Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
      • Oct 2009
      • 29171
      • 781
      • 381
      • 132,163

      #52
      Originally posted by Simurgh
      Sure, mate. Your posts are always with arguments.

      I was talking about these geniuses who spend all their time searching threads with Wlad's name to start usual 'KO/TKO, glass chin, robot, stif, klitlickers' BS...
      Yeah that's just the same thing, but the other side of the coin. a fanboy and a hater is the same. Cut both out and you have yourself a good discussion in the middle.

      Comment

      • Simurgh
        Undisputed Champion
        Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
        • Feb 2012
        • 4059
        • 252
        • 225
        • 25,824

        #53
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        I doubt he does to be honest with you. If the likes of Norton, Frazier, Liston, Foreman, Shavers couldn't knock him out I wouldn't bank on Wlad to do it either.

        Of course if he doesn't stand infront of him with his hands down that is. But I don't think it is likely.
        That's the thing. Noone was able to land clear. Fraizer and Holmes were landing some, but his power is nowhere near Wlad's.

        Comment

        • beez721
          Undisputed Champion
          Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
          • Aug 2005
          • 9637
          • 252
          • 55
          • 16,400

          #54
          Originally posted by Simurgh
          That's the thing. Noone was able to land clear. Fraizer and Holmes were landing some, but his power is nowhere near Wlad's.
          yea,,I could see wlad maybe putting ali on his rear if he got lucky enough to land that one big shot but ali isnt one to stay down. hed be back up in an instant. too damn tough and determined to get kayoed

          Comment

          • Simurgh
            Undisputed Champion
            Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
            • Feb 2012
            • 4059
            • 252
            • 225
            • 25,824

            #55
            Originally posted by beez721
            yea,,I could see wlad maybe putting ali on his rear if he got lucky enough to land that one big shot but ali isnt one to stay down. hed be back up in an instant. too damn tough and determined to get kayoed
            If anyone would get up from a massive punch that's ali.

            but on the other hand... being hit by 250lbs of pure muscle on a chin... well it would be quite nonhuman to recover from that.

            Comment

            • beez721
              Undisputed Champion
              Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
              • Aug 2005
              • 9637
              • 252
              • 55
              • 16,400

              #56
              Originally posted by Simurgh
              If anyone would get up from a massive punch that's ali.

              but on the other hand... being hit by 250lbs of pure muscle on a chin... well it would be quite nonhuman to recover from that.
              wlad hits as hard as hell no doubt but I think guys like foreman and shavers altho smaller hit quite a bit harder. shavers literally threw all his weight into his shots and he couldnt get ali out despite landing some solid blows and this was ali well past his prime

              Comment

              • Stallion_
                Up and Comer
                Interim Champion - 1-100 posts
                • Jul 2013
                • 80
                • 1
                • 0
                • 10,464

                #57
                Originally posted by beez721
                wlad is very quick for such a big man but no way in hell is he even near as fast as a prime ali. you need to watch a young ali against liston and williams. he was nearly impossible to hit with a combination and youre not going to get ali out with one punch if youre lucky enough to land one. hed have given them both a boxing lesson. fwiw I think wlad is more competitive with ali than vitali. vitali struggles more with good boxers whereas wlad struggles more with sluggers
                Of course Ali was faster, I'm aware of his speed as well. I was never thinking about Klitschko looking for a KO. Ali was faster, but also smaller and Wlad would be out of his reach. Speed isn't enough to beat someone like Wladimir. It's the aggressiveness that could potentially cause him problems. Both of them are/were very hard to hit, it's just that I give advantage to Wladimir due to his size and the fact he's so good defensively. I see Wlad winning a comfortable UD in a very boring match. That's what I think at least.

                Comment

                • WarMaidana
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                  • May 2010
                  • 2958
                  • 124
                  • 370
                  • 12,923

                  #58
                  im going with wlad... too big and has great skill. People just underestimate/hate on him cause hes not american

                  Comment

                  • beez721
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 9637
                    • 252
                    • 55
                    • 16,400

                    #59
                    Originally posted by Stallion_
                    Of course Ali was faster, I'm aware of his speed as well. I was never thinking about Klitschko looking for a KO. Ali was faster, but also smaller and Wlad would be out of his reach. Speed isn't enough to beat someone like Wladimir. It's the aggressiveness that could potentially cause him problems. Both of them are/were very hard to hit, it's just that I give advantage to Wladimir due to his size and the fact he's so good defensively. I see Wlad winning a comfortable UD in a very boring match. That's what I think at least.
                    at least you back up your opinion. I can respect that. we'll just have to agree to disagree

                    Comment

                    • WarMaidana
                      Undisputed Champion
                      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                      • May 2010
                      • 2958
                      • 124
                      • 370
                      • 12,923

                      #60
                      Originally posted by Simurgh
                      There will always be two extremes.

                      It's funny how the posters who call the other posters 'trolls' are actually trolling about how Ali would murder Wlad... (with a few exceptions)

                      It's just funny...
                      was thinking the same thing

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP