Nathan Cleverly "i won first 2 rounds and was winning the third"

[Hitman932]

Tell Lucas Matthysse what it's like trying to win a decision against a US opponent in the States.

Funny I don't recall anyone Matthysse has knocked down getting assistance to their corner from the referee.

At least the judges do their dirt behind the scenes. If the UK the ref just ****s the foreign fighter in the @ss for the world to see and you fans give it a thumbs up every time and act like it happens elsewhere when it doesn't.

Between the Scott fight, the Thompson fight where Price was given a 15 second 8 count and this fight you have 3 consecutive occurrences of blatant ref misconduct in high profile fights.

It's as if the bigger the event the more cheating is embraced by British fans.

I noticed you used Matthyse as an example though considering Calzaghe, Hatton and Froch have all been treated 100% fairly when coming to the US. Fury was allowed to maul Cunningham in the US without the ref butting in and green teefing him with point deductions and ****** warnings like Malik Scott got for punching Chisora.

Plenty of other good example too such as Haye being allowed to rabbit punch John Ruiz into submission and Andre Dirrell losing a point for leaning on Froch even though he had never been warned for that specific offense.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

He did notice it since it was right in front of him and ran to stop Kovalev. He could've DQ'd Sergey had he wanted to, technically he should have and Cleverly should still have the belt, but he didn't.

Maybe if Clev had pulled some b1tch **** like Dirrell v Abraham or Hopkins v Dawson...

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Funny I don't recall anyone Matthysse has knocked down getting assistance to their corner from the referee.

At least the judges do their dirt behind the scenes. If the UK the ref just ****s the foreign fighter in the @ss for the world to see and you fans give it a thumbs up every time and act like it happens elsewhere when it doesn't.

Between the Scott fight, the Thompson fight where Price was given a 15 second 8 count and this fight you have 3 consecutive occurrences of blatant ref misconduct in high profile fights.

It's as if the bigger the event the more cheating is embraced by British fans.

I noticed you used Matthyse as an example though considering Calzaghe, Hatton and Froch have all been treated 100% fairly when coming to the US. Fury was allowed to maul Cunningham in the US without the ref butting in and green teefing him with point deductions and ****** warnings like Malik Scott got for punching Chisora.

Plenty of other good example too such as Haye being allowed to rabbit punch John Ruiz into submission and Andre Dirrell losing a point for leaning on Froch even though he had never been warned for that specific offense.

Dirrell got a point taken away for excessive holding which he'd been warned about several times you pathetic bald twat.

America is the worst for corruption from the referees to the judges to the athletes all on performance enhancing drugs

[sugarsmosley]

Cleverly's right! Kovalev just landed a lot of lucky punches. He had Kovalev reeling but then he just kept pounding him with lucky shot, after lucky shot.

[Hitman932]

Dirrell got a point taken away for excessive holding which he'd been warned about several times you pathetic bald twat.

No he didn't you moron. Go back and watch the fight then come back and admit what an idiot you are.

Dirrell had been warned for holding but the referee specifically took a point from Dirrell for leaning on Froch which he had never been warned for, and it was a joke of a time to take the point when there were plenty of other occasions he could have done it legitimately.

In that case he was just like "ahh, **** this American guy I'm taking a point off for whatever he does next regardless of what it is."

Not even mentioning the judges were disgraceful. Dirrell fought like a punk but Froch landed about 6 punches the entire night and there is no way that wins a fight.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

No he didn't you moron. Go back and watch the fight then come back and admit what an idiot you are.

Dirrell had been warned for holding but the referee specifically took a point from Dirrell for leaning on Froch which he had never been warned for, and it was a joke of a time to take the point when there were plenty of other occasions he could have done it legitimately.

In that case he was just like "ahh, **** this American guy I'm taking a point off for whatever he does next regardless of what it is."

Not even mentioning the judges were disgraceful. Dirrell fought like a punk but Froch landed about 6 punches the entire night and there is no way that wins a fight.

Go to 49.00 you lying bald bell-end. You clearly see the referee motion that he was deducting a point for holding.

[Weebler I]

At least the judges do their dirt behind the scenes.

It was the judges you were criticising, now you want to make it about the ref? At least keep it consistent with your own posts.

Hatton and Froch have all been treated 100% fairly when coming to the US. Fury was allowed to maul Cunningham in the US without the ref butting in.

Yeah right, pull the other one.

Cortez for FMJ v Hatton - lol yeah that reffing was fair...in lala land

Smoger for Froch-Ward - Smoger favours the inside fighter, we both know that's Ward

Cotton for Fury v Cunningham - Fury wasn't allowed to fight inside all night, he even complained about it after the fight.

If you want neutral views on Cotton, check the first post: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=125886

Do you want to go into Joe Cooper in Khan v Peterson (ref or judges?).

[Dirk Diggler UK]

It was the judges you were criticising, now you want to make it about the ref? At least keep it consistent with your own posts.



Yeah right, pull the other one.

Cortez for FMJ v Hatton - lol yeah that reffing was fair...in lala land

Smoger for Froch-Ward - Smoger favours the inside fighter, we both know that's Ward

Cotton for Fury v Cunningham - Fury wasn't allowed to fight inside all night, he even complained about it after the fight.

If you want neutral views on Cotton, check the first post: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=125886

Not to mention how Cortez babied Hopkins through the Calzaghe fight allowing him to take two separate 5 minute breaks even though a foul hadn't been committed and allowing him to hold Calzaghe all night despite breaking up Hatton every time he got close to Mayweather

[DreamFighter]

He did notice it since it was right in front of him and ran to stop Kovalev. He could've DQ'd Sergey had he wanted to, technically he should have and Cleverly should still have the belt, but he didn't.

Maybe if Clev had pulled some b1tch **** like Dirrell v Abraham or Hopkins v Dawson...

Yes, true, he might well have noticed, and I wasn't defining not noticing as a complete be all as you may have guessed, but my point being that there is a difference between active cheating and mistakes through inaction/passivity.

not reacting to something can be incompetence and can be cheating too in a sly, look-the-other way - deliberate action (stopping and starting a fight, carrying a fighter to the corner) is also incompetence of course but its clear intentional cheating too.


tbh I really don't think a ref who is protecting his fighter by carrying him and restarting a stopped fight for him can be deliberately ignoring illegal blows, not unless they are VERY sly and quick thinking as well as corrupt.

[Levity]

really? How? I think Cleverly was winning the first few rounds and catching Kovalev with some shots. Yes, then the fight was over, but to say Kovalev won every round is interesting to me because he barely touched Cleverly in the first 2 rounds.

Not sure if serious?

Kovalev landed a lot more by virtue of being more active, as Clev was obviously weary of his power and reluctant to throw; sure, Clev got through with a shot now and then, but Kovalev got through with more.

Cleverly was clearly bothered against the ropes in the second, so I don't agree with suggestions that Kovalev landed nothing significant or barely touched Clev before the third.

Any score aside from 10-9 Kovalev for each of the first two rounds is poor.