Comments Thread For: PEDs: When The Lawsuits Come

[BoxingFollower]

Did Marquez not have 35+KO's before the 4th Pacquiao fight? Yes so he has never been a feather fisted puncher.

Has Pacquiao been Ko'd before by lesser punchers?? Yes, so he's not exactly Shane Mosley here.

Did Marquez go years refusing OST?? No.
Did Pacquiao go years refusing OST?? Yes

Are punches you don't see coming the most dangerous? Yes
Did Pacquiao get hit with a punch he didn't see coming? Yes

This sums it up, Pacquiao lost, get over it. Some of the greatest fighters have been Ko'd or stopped.

[MikeRo1972]

Because he hired a known drug cheat and suddenly at damn near 40 a career counter puncher morohed into a hulking muscle bound one punch KO artist. Look, I like JMM but if you think his gains are natural this late in his carreer then you are a damned fool. Same goes for many other fighters, Manny, Floyd, Shane, etc etc. I'm calling them all out other than Nonito. Unless you do VADA 24/7/365 then your a55 is suspect. Period end of story.

No one criteria can make you su****ious but the totality of circumstantial evidence leads you to make an educated guess. 1. Hires a drug cheat, 2. Gets bigger stronger faster late in career when historically skills, strength, and speed diminish, 3. Instant Mass gain in muscle, 4. Su****ious physical changes such as head size, power gut, vein protrusion, back acne, gym tan, etc., 5. Sudden 1 punch KO power or sudden stamina gains.

Do I really need to continue to lay it out? In Baseball it wasn't until someone broke one of the longest standing records that fans and media finally opened their eyes. When we look back we ask "how the hell did we the fans and the media not see the obvious, pervasive, and rampant use of PEDs in baseball? Hindsight is 20/20. Armstrong was passing every test in the USADA/Cycling world breakign every record winning something like 7 Tours in a row defeating men half his age with ease. We loved him then now we realize the douchebag cheatet he really is. It'll be the same with boxing. 10 years from now we'll look back and ask WTF? It was right in our faces. So many of today's fighters will be revealed for the frauds they are.

I hope it doesn't take a death at the hands of a cheater for that to happen.

[Dagomba]

Isn't this guy the same dude who accused Floyd of failing a drug test without any sort of evidence?

I remember when the arguments like, "Let the commission do its work." "He's never failed a drug test in his life." were rampant throughout the forum when Pacquiao was being accused of PED usage without evidence. Now Pac gets KTFO and suddenly they do a 180 degree turn and accuse JMM with the claims they once laughed at.

[ShoulderRoll]

What about all the guys that were working with Victor Conte? Couldn't they possibly have a hook up to undetectable PEDs?

But of course Hauser doesn't bring any of them up either. It's only Memo and JMM that he has a problem with.

[MindBat]

Both fighter was clean after the fight. The commission did their job and tested both. Where was all this up roar when Floyd wanted Manny to get tested? Remember when Manny was moving up beating up bigger guys with ease? Wasn't that a red flag? Nobody cared only until dude got his wig knocked off. Marquez only needed to time Manny and put everything into his punch. He fought Pacquiao 3 times prior. Marquez already KO'd some tough bearded fighters in his career already. He has more KO's than Pacquiao. Article is BULL$#!t. Remember when Ariza said Manny doesn't know what's in his shakes? What about all of the excuses to avoid taking the tests in the first place? Manny and his b!tch @ss fans.

I would've called it a day if a saw a wig flying into the crowd that night.



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[DeadLikeMe]

PEDs only became an issue when the doping fraud Pacquiao got KTFO and spent a month as a joke internet meme.

Arum paying his schill Hauser to try to resurrect Pac's image

[Rico1965]

He did drink his own urine thinking it would help him and that failed, so I wouldn't be surprised if he took roids to fulfill his destiny and that was to KTFO Pacquiao. I also believe Pacquiao was on the juice in prior fights but has been cleaned since Mayweather and gang have been acusing him. Karma is a *****!

[JustinFloyd]

Isn't this guy the same dude who accused Floyd of failing a drug test without any sort of evidence?

I remember when the arguments like, "Let the commission do its work." "He's never failed a drug test in his life." were rampant throughout the forum when Pacquiao was being accused of PED usage without evidence. Now Pac gets KTFO and suddenly they do a 180 degree turn and accuse JMM with the claims they once laughed at.

yes, the same guy.. and when Attys of Pac found out about that article, they ask for the REAL documents of the tests... guess what happened? Mayweathers apologizes and ask for a settlement. lol!

[FerFal'sStepDad]

Marquez was on and is on steriods..if you look at the pic boxingscene posted of him getting ripped for Bradley..Marquez had a bloated gut that looked like he's been drinking 6 packs of beer for years but still had a 8pack of abbs..that's called a steroid gut

These guys know JMM is a cheat. They just never can admit anything ever that goes against their fighters.

Look they are still asking for proof about Margarito's wraps in 2013...

Not every has an IQ over 78.

[techliam]

Beautifully written article!! Honestly for the past few years i've felt the government should've stepped into the boxing game to regulate it. I have a background in Cycling which isn't a high paying career for most but if boxers are anything like cyclists then rampant use is very accurate...and it won't cost you much at all...at first. Any sport that allows testing to be negotiated, any sport that allows promoters to decide what drugs get tested for exclusively...I can't call a clean sport. I will say that some of these guys probably don't even know they have shhh in their systems in a few cases...if you are an athlete and some nutritionist wants to put you on "ANY" supplement pay the few hundred bucks and send it to a lab first.

"The government" ? As in the US Government? It can't regulate a world sport. Nor can it force non-Citizens into doing stuff like this. The only sanctioning body within US jurisdiction is the IBF. Just food for thought there