Comments Thread For: PEDs: When The Lawsuits Come

[DeadLikeMe]

well, it was there

why do you think roach was asking for extra testing?

heredia threatening to sue over the many allegations and for being exposed by conte:

http://www.boxingscene.com/marquez-strength-coach-threatens-lawsuit-against-ariza--45617

nacho saying mexican fighters dont take ped's:

http://www.boxingscene.com/marquezs-trainer-says-mexican-fighters-use-peds--45936

random thread:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=519677

random article:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/926635-pacquiao-vs-marquez-ped-connections-make-this-fight-a-fail-for-boxing

only ones that dont want to believe it and are still denying it are suprise suprise, mayweathers fan girls

Bleacher Report lol...I've always maintained that around 90% of the top guys in the sport are juicing for years. It is just funny that the entire Pac army had to do a complete 180 because their icon got KTFO. Also, you mentioned Fetta and I's join dates but edited it out. If anything, your join date is far, far more telling than ours

[SplitSecond]

Who said i dont think JMM was juicing? I think Pac was juicing back when all this was considered cowardly and thats my argument. Why is this just being reported now, after Pac got KO'd and not when he was refusing testing and running through bigger guys? Why is this "respected" journalists taking shots at JMM if he tested clean by what SO MANY said was acceptable testing? But i wont expect anything logical from you cause you are a Pac cheerleader and to you hes clean and god sent

I have said since the start to TEST THEM ALL. I didnt jump on the wagon after the KO like so many of you

who did indeed? not me, unless you included yourself when i said mayweather fan girls

i wasn't trying to refer to you or the other guy, just saying in general

[SplitSecond]

Bleacher Report lol...I've always maintained that around 90% of the top guys in the sport are juicing for years. It is just funny that the entire Pac army had to do a complete 180 because their icon got KTFO. Also, you mentioned Fetta and I's join dates but edited it out. If anything, your join date is far, far more telling than ours

here

http://deadspin.com/5857439/what-do-usain-bolt-and-juan-manuel-marquez-have-in-common-they-train-with-the-same-admitted-steroids-dealer

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/nov/10/sports/la-sp-marquez-pacquiao-20111111

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sports/manny-pacquiao-juan-manuel-marquez-fight-doping-cloud-article-1.971537

and another boxingscene article, with larry merchant and mentioning the rampant speculations of fans suspecting marquez

http://www.boxingscene.com/larry-merchants-take-on-marquezs-conditioning-coach--45649

and my join date doesn't say much except that i've likely been a boxing fan longer than you and was around when this was happening

also, this is my second account(orginally joined in 07 or 08)

[tomhawq]

why do floyd worshippers keep populating ped threads when their hero tested positive 3 times and got away with it. don't know why these worshippers still have the nerve to show up in these kinds of topics as if they have something useful to contribute.

by the way, paqciao didn't refuse testing. he agreed to unlimited urine and 3 blood tests. how many boxers are subjected to unlimited urine and 3 blood tests currently?

[TheMexHurricane]

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I don't recalll so many articles regarding Pacroid and PED's on Boxingscene before a fight. Smh..........

[GRUSTLER]

Marquez did indeed look quite a bit different physically than his last step up in weight against Mayweather. One of the confounding issues is that the science behind strength and conditioning training continues to evolve and progress, and some coaches are simply better at it than others. But it did raise a lot of questions. It's hard to imagine how he could be that much bigger and stronger so quickly. I wonder how the Marquez of fall 2012 would have fared against Mayweather? While Pacquiao's rapid weight gain raised some questions early on (though there really weren't a whole lot of serious doubters beyond the Mayweather camp) his continued condition at that weight seems to have borne out the defences. That said, a cynic would say that the end of Pacquiao's total dominance of his foes happened around the same time that he really faced a lot of questions about PED's. I personally pin that on the amount of punishment he took in beating Margarito (and others) – which was way more than was ever obvious at the time – and the fact that folks like Mosley quickly got on the bike when it was clear they were over their head. But who knows...

Will never know because that Marquez said he won't fight Mayweather EVER again.

[GRUSTLER]

why do floyd worshippers keep populating ped threads when their hero tested positive 3 times and got away with it. don't know why these worshippers still have the nerve to show up in these kinds of topics as if they have something useful to contribute.

by the way, paqciao didn't refuse testing. he agreed to unlimited urine and 3 blood tests. how many boxers are subjected to unlimited urine and 3 blood tests currently?

Documented proof or it never happened.

[tomhawq]

Documented proof or it never happened.

you need proof that mayweather is cheating? why do you need proof? pacquiao is cheating. no evidence was needed. crackweather sr said so.

[Fetta]

you need proof that mayweather is cheating? why do you need proof? pacquiao is cheating. no evidence was needed. crackweather sr said so.

JMM is cheating though no proof and Pac fans are screaming that from mountain tops.

[tomhawq]

JMM is cheating though no proof and Pac fans are screaming that from mountain tops.

exactly, just like pac was cheating. no evidence was needed. all it took was the crackweather sr's words to convince the floyd cult members.