Comments Thread For: Ellerbe Calls Bull**** on Canelo Sparring Stories

[PeterNeversoft]

Just shut up Ellerbe....You a joke and a Jazz-mopper...

Remember that heated interview between Merchant and Floyd...Merchant asking Floyd "What are you talking about"...and then you had Ellerbe in the background yelling at Merchant "Your heard him"

[Sugar Adam Ali]

You're rational when it comes to Floyd-Mosley is nuts. You're basically saying that Floyd is obligated to fight Shane when its convienient for Shane. And that all is forgiven on Shane's end for the two or three times he turned the fight down. But Floyd is a dip**** for not fighting him durning a one year window when these cats had shadowed each other for over a decade.

Yet floyd fought him after a 17 month layoff and mosley had no legs and was almost 40 years old,,,,

If floyd wasnt going to fight him, because shane refused him early in their careers, then why did he fight him like 3 years later in 2010,

Shane was with GBP in 07, floyd had just beaten oscar, and shane was a huge name with some gas left in the tank,,, Fighting then would have provided a bigger payday for both guys then the ones they got in 2010....

If floyd didnt want to give shane the time of day because shane shunned him earlier before floyd was a huge star,, then why did he fight him in 2010, years later,,,
Answer is: because by 2010 shane had no legs, was shop-worn and more importantly had a big win 17 months earlier over margs who is about the one guy shane could look good against,,,, So floyd struck a deal with an old, no legs shane,,, shane could still crack hard, but had no legs or stamina to keep up with floyd over 12 rounds, and it showed in the fight,,, That is why floyd fought him then instead of 07 when shane still had gas in the tank,,,

Did the same thing with cotto,, waited him out,, let him go thru all the wars, then catch him at the last possible moment,,,

What are cotto and shanes big wins after floyd,,,,, ZERO big fat ZERO wins,, but keep thinking they were prime guys when floyd fought them


I just cant believe how many defend floyd's resume of the past 10 years on here,,, it flabbergasts me, because some of you are actually very good posters except when it comes to floyd's resume of the last 10 years....

[iloveboxing2]

Ellerbe's on medication again!

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Don't worry, I enjoy our debates as well. I'm just trying to present an element of objectivity. For every action there is a reaction. For every one thing you can pick at about Floyd not fighting this guy at this time, one can point to why that is. As far as defending Floyd's post 03 resume, there isn't much to deFend, he beat a bunch of guys that would be considered great opponents for anyone else. Forgive me If i'm wrong but it seems to me that Floyd has left a bad taste in your mouth because of his 08 departure that it's hard to give him any credit in the future. Canelo's the number one Junior Middle in the world and Floyd is fighting him, the catchweight is weak as hell, but I'd rather deal with that than not have the fight at all, he's the biggest threat out there to Floyd at the moment. Guerrero was the best option at the time they fought. He was interim champ only because Floyd was the champ. The only other guy out there was Marquez because he beat Manny, but Floyd had already done away with him. Robert was the best choice. I agree, Cotto was past his prime, but no one ever brings up that so is Floyd.
No one brings up that Floyd's a lot older and has a lot more miles on his legs because he's been in more fights, the only difference is that Floyd is better conditioned than Miguel is. You had two past their best fighters, but no one complained when they actually fought, it was a great fight and everyone went home happy that night. Miguel was the #1 ranked Jr. Middleweight and Floyd beat him. Victor Ortiz, he was the WBC Welterweight Champ, Floyd beat him lol, what is the issue there? Neither him or Manny wanted to fight each other, Victor was the best option. Shane Mosley, definitely past his prime but still a really good opponent who many claimed Floyd was afraid of. He was the #1 Welterweight in the world, I had no problem with, although I would have loved to see them **** it out in 2006. I laughed at the Marquez announcement as well, but he was the #2 p4p fighter in the world and he arguably beat the #1 p4p fighter in the world. Floyd was too big for Marquez but he wasn't too big for Pacquiao, I never understood that, but we all know that was a fight for Floyd to shake off any ring loss. There was no risk. Hatton and Oscar were the biggest events in the sport. He beat Baldomir the champ, and he beat Zab while he was still world champ. He was coming off a loss to Carlos, but the fight was signed well before that and he went on to fight the winner of that anyway. I could go on but I'm not lol

Yes floyd fought alot of decent fights,,, not going to say that he is doing a sven ottke and fighting bums,,,,
But dude was the face of boxing and had legit huge epic fights like shane in late 07,, then maybe hatton in may of 08, cotto in late 08, and then manny in 2010......
If bradley or khan or somebody like that was fighting floyd's fights then yes they would get high praise, but floyd is THE MAN, NUMERO UNO, BIGGEST DRAW IN THE SPORT,,, so his bar is higher than everyone else not named srl, oscar, tyson, ali etc.............

There are just too many missed fights on floyd's resume,,,,

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Yet floyd fought him after a 17 month layoff and mosley had no legs and was almost 40 years old,,,,

If floyd wasnt going to fight him, because shane refused him early in their careers, then why did he fight him like 3 years later in 2010,

Shane was with GBP in 07, floyd had just beaten oscar, and shane was a huge name with some gas left in the tank,,, Fighting then would have provided a bigger payday for both guys then the ones they got in 2010....

If floyd didnt want to give shane the time of day because shane shunned him earlier before floyd was a huge star,, then why did he fight him in 2010, years later,,,
Answer is: because by 2010 shane had no legs, was shop-worn and more importantly had a big win 17 months earlier over margs who is about the one guy shane could look good against,,,, So floyd struck a deal with an old, no legs shane,,, shane could still crack hard, but had no legs or stamina to keep up with floyd over 12 rounds, and it showed in the fight,,, That is why floyd fought him then instead of 07 when shane still had gas in the tank,,,

Did the same thing with cotto,, waited him out,, let him go thru all the wars, then catch him at the last possible moment,,,

What are cotto and shanes big wins after floyd,,,,, ZERO big fat ZERO wins,, but keep thinking they were prime guys when floyd fought them


I just cant believe how many defend floyd's resume of the past 10 years on here,,, it flabbergasts me, because some of you are actually very good posters except when it comes to floyd's resume of the last 10 years....

Floyd and Pac couldn't come to terms. Who would have been a better opponent than Mosley at the time?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Noob question, what does Ellebe do for Mayweather specifically?

Ellerbe handles all of floyd's planning, like photo shoots, interviews, transportation, doctors appointments, stuff like that,,, he is basically a manager,,,
Al haymon handles all of floyd's fight contracts and things of that nature,,

Ellerbe is more of a day-to-day handler...

I hope that helps explain the roles,,,, Welcome to NSB

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Floyd and Pac couldn't come to terms. Who would have been a better opponent than Mosley at the time?

Maybe if he had fought mosely in late 07 then they could have had a rematch,,

Your right though,, there wasnt many options for viable big fight opponents,,
hence why floyd was active and not in "retirement" lol....

If you guys cant see that floyd is a master at selecting opponents and avoiding challenges, then you are just in denial...

For everything you guys throw up,, it is easily shot down....
I have had guys so far say that its arum fault, haymons fault, retired due to his hands, etc.........

Nobody wants to face the facts that floyd shies away from challenges just like roy jones a decade before him...

[Mayabang]

Him speaking isnt shutting down the hype its actually stirring the pot. Team Mayweather is the villian. Get the masses talking about fight and that way more people can see the "future" of our sport

You're totally missing Stokely's point. The main hype about this is that Canelo is marketed as a dangerous powerful fighter, and him hurting his sparring partners (whether true or not) only supports it. So with Ellerbe saying it's BS pretty much negates the hype of Canelo being thing strong powerful fighter.

Ellerbe in this case is acting like a bitch.

[J The UnBiased]

Yes floyd fought alot of decent fights,,, not going to say that he is doing a sven ottke and fighting bums,,,,
But dude was the face of boxing and had legit huge epic fights like shane in late 07,, then maybe hatton in may of 08, cotto in late 08, and then manny in 2010......
If bradley or khan or somebody like that was fighting floyd's fights then yes they would get high praise, but floyd is THE MAN, NUMERO UNO, BIGGEST DRAW IN THE SPORT,,, so his bar is higher than everyone else not named srl, oscar, tyson, ali etc.............

There are just too many missed fights on floyd's resume,,,,

I think I see where were getting our lines blurred. If Floyd fought Shane late 07, Hatton and Cotto in 08, and Manny in 09 or 10, Floyd's resume would unquestionably be better than it is right now. But what I'm saying is that those fights didn't take place for a reason. Reasons that do not solely rest on Floyd's hands. But yes, if he had those fights, his legacy would be much greater than it already is. no doubt

[Fetta]

You're totally missing Stokely's point. The main hype about this is that Canelo is marketed as a dangerous powerful fighter, and him hurting his sparring partners (whether true or not) only supports it. So with Ellerbe saying it's BS pretty much negates the hype of Canelo being thing strong powerful fighter.

Ellerbe in this case is acting like a bitch.

Ah ok