Roy Jones jr overrated

[BUNGALOWS]

lmao,,, yes you are right,, and the funny thing would be there would be posters saying hagler was just hype,,,

Yep. That's the way it always goes.

[Ray Corso]

How do I apply for a Moderators job here? Or Janitors gig, theres some cleaning up to do before the "adults" get bored with the BS threads by kids and leave! Then there is no forum just a bunch of trolls and haters who think boxing is a sport not a business! Personally I'm tired of the threads showing up and think some forum cleaning and educating is due! Ray Corso

[Stuntman Mike]

by dominant a decade you mean wins over vinny paz, byrd, lucas, brannon, frazier, del valle, ancient mccallum, griffith, telesco, johnson, hall, then yes he dominated a decade,,,

if you mean he beat all the top guys like benn, G-man, eubanks, nunn, michlewski, liles, collins,,, then no he didnt dominant a decade,,,

Jones wasn't a career smw, when he never got the fights he wanted he moved up too light heavy which is what people are screaming for ward to do because all other options have run out.. Too hint at jones being a coward/duck is ignorant considering the guy was so calm he played basketball before world title fights

[Sugar Adam Ali]

And who did any of them beat thats on Roy Jones level? Who did any of them fight thats on Roy Jones level?

um, how about each other,,,

ever heard of say

benn-eubanks 1
benn-eubanks 2
benn-collins
collins-eubanks 1
collins-eubanks 2
benn-g-man

etc


conversely,,
who did brannon, bryd, sosa, lucas, frazier, etc beat to deserve a shot at roy,,,

please tell me their great wins,,,, IM DYING TO KNOW

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Jones wasn't a career smw, when he never got the fights he wanted he moved up too light heavy which is what people are screaming for ward to do because all other options have run out.. Too hint at jones being a coward/duck is ignorant considering the guy was so calm he played basketball before world title fights

LOL,, when your fighting guys with no hope, then yes you could take a basketball game the same day,,,,

So your saying that benn, G-man, Eubanks, Collins, Nunn, Liles were too scared to get a career high payday,,,

Roy didnt move to lightheavy till nunn became his mandatory,, he would rather fight an ancient great jr mid 40+ year old maccallum

Liles beat roy in the amateurs and was his nemesis in the amateur ranks,, yet liles would be scared of a guy that he gave 2 standing 8 counts to in an amateur fight,,, GTFOOH

Not trying to say roy is a bum or hype,,, but he dodged alot of meaningful fights,,,,
He was floyd before there was floyd,,, actually i think floyd has a way better resume in terms of competition faced,,,

Roy had ATG type talent,, but his resume gets overblown and overrated,,,

[Gorilla Dog]

um, how about each other,,,

ever heard of say

benn-eubanks 1
benn-eubanks 2
benn-collins
collins-eubanks 1
collins-eubanks 2
benn-g-man

etc


conversely,,
who did brannon, bryd, sosa, lucas, frazier, etc beat to deserve a shot at roy,,,

please tell me their great wins,,,, IM DYING TO KNOW

Benn, Eubank,Collins...none are on Roy Jones level and were never thought of to be on his level.....but I wasn't aware that a fighter is suppose to fight every boxer in his era or heaven forbid he's overrated. They never fought RJ so therefore they must be overrated...see how that works?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Benn, Eubank,Collins...none are on Roy Jones level and were never thought of to be on his level.....but I wasn't aware that a fighter is suppose to fight every boxer in his era or heaven forbid he's overrated.

You never answered the question,,,, who did byrd, brannon, frazier, etc beat to become a big fight for roy,,,, ANSWER PLEASE.....

I dont care if roy fought all of them, but at least maybe 2 or 3,,,

can you imagine ali not fighting frazier, foreman, norton,,

or srl not fighting benetiz, duran, hearns,

or oscar not fighting vargas, tito, ike, pernell, shane, hopkins, floyd, manny

ATG fighters fight other great fighters,,,,,

Roy was a great fighter,, but in terms of ATG resume,, he is very soft,,,

And for the record, i would favor roy over everyone i mentioned, but i think collins and liles would be the toughest fights just due to their style,,,

Roy's talent is great, but he never did what other great fighters did, that is to fight the absolute best,,,

[Gorilla Dog]

You never answered the question,,,, who did byrd, brannon, frazier, etc beat to become a big fight for roy,,,, ANSWER PLEASE.....

I dont care if roy fought all of them, but at least maybe 2 or 3,,,

can you imagine ali not fighting frazier, foreman, norton,,

or srl not fighting benetiz, duran, hearns,

or oscar not fighting vargas, tito, ike, pernell, shane, hopkins, floyd, manny

ATG fighters fight other great fighters,,,,,

Roy was a great fighter,, but in terms of ATG resume,, he is very soft,,,

And for the record, i would favor roy over everyone i mentioned, but i think collins and liles would be the toughest fights just due to their style,,,

Roy's talent is great, but he never did what other great fighters did, that is to fight the absolute best,,,

If you were around in the 90s then you would know that Roy Jones didn't have any competition in his era, he was that much better than everybody else to where the only demand of him was to keep moving up and facing bigger men which he did ultimately fighting a Heavyweight. Benn, Eubank, Collins, were some across the pond fighters that most Americans hadn't even heard of. Fighting in Europe wasn't even seen as a cool or smart thing to do for US fighters in the 1990s, so for Roy, a man of his time, to fight these guys in England or Europe would of been unheard of.

Did Benn, Collins, Eubank fight Roy, BHop, and James Toney. If not then its they who are overrated, right?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

If you were around in the 90s then you would know that Roy Jones didn't have any competition in his era, he was that much better than everybody else to where the only demand of him was to keep moving up and facing bigger men which he did ultimately fighting a Heavyweight. Benn, Eubank, Collins, were some across the pond fighters that most Americans hadn't even heard of. Fighting in Europe wasn't even seen as a cool or smart thing to do for US fighters in the 1990s, so for Roy, a man of his time, to fight these guys in England or Europe would of been unheard of.

Did Benn, Collins, Eubank fight Roy, BHop, and James Toney. If not then its they who are overrated, right?

1. i have been around alot longer than the 90's

2. You make all the excuses you want, the fact doesnt change that roy didnt fight the best available guys,,, G-man fought benn,,, so fighting euro's wasnt crazy,,, lewis fought all the american heavys in the 90's... hatton and calzaghe, kessler, froch have all found ways to fight competition from across the pond,,,,

3. Forget about the euros,,, what about the domestic fights,, champion G-man, champ Liles who was roy jones amateur nemesis, nunn who was roy's mandatory,,, all big fights and easy to make

4. THe hopkins fight was only big in hindsight,,, at the time hopkins as an unknown on the big stage,,, thats who he got the fight,,, he wasnt thought of very highly at the time,,,

5. Toney was a great win for roy,,, no doubt about that,,, then roy didnt have another great win till the ruiz fight at heavy,,,,

6. Once again,, who did brannon, byrd, sosa, lucas, frazier, etc beat to earn a fight vs roy...... IM STILL WAITING FOR THAT ANSWER

7. You should just realize that roy was a great fighter, but didnt test himself like other great fighters have done ala srl, ali, oscar,,,, Roy is a great fighter but his resume is very soft for a guy of his skills,,, I dont know how one can debate that,,,

[freethinkersam]

Jones was p4p 1

The onus was on pretenders like Calzaghe to take on the
Ion in his den...


Hatton did it..

But Calzaghe was a conscious fraudster