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Who's got a harder right hand.Wilder or Wladimir?

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  • #51
    I kind of feel like Wilder has the harder one punch haymaker. But Wlad right hand probably lands with a thud and consistently hard every time.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
      Wilder has more KO's than Golovkin has fights yet Golovkin is seen as the monster?
      I'd regard Lucas as more of a monster than Golovkin. Honestly, I think Golovkin's power is there but it's overrated by many.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by joe strong View Post
        Ray mercer has been in with a few heavy hitters. He said lennox hit much harder then wlad but he said tommy morrison hit him harder then anyone.
        Yeah and Lennox might hit harder. Phil Jackson said Wlad hits harder with both hands from what he felt on both of them but it's always interesting to hear what they say.

        Originally posted by Dr.Eisenfaust View Post
        I know that what I will say is shocking and might seem to some of you absurd, but I consider the 2008-2011 version of Vitali Klitschko to be stronger in terms of " raw power" than Both Wilder and Wlad. His style just didn't allow him to expose this power. Knockout ratios are relevant... but to a certain extent. I am more than sure that a guy that would last 12 rounds against these 3 guys would fell more pain against Vitali.

        Wilder's style is a different to W.K's one. Like someone previously said, Wilder doesn't totally control his straight right hand. Throwing that kind of straight right hand against fighters such as David Haye or Ali may put you in some big trouble.

        That is strictly my opinion based on non empirical thoughts, and I would totally understand that you may disagree with that I've just written.
        I don't agree with you that Vitali had more raw power but I do see what you're saying about his style. Anyone that punches in the style Vitali does and still breaks a guy down at the rate he used to has to have a lot of raw power to begin with.

        Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
        He has a decent jab, I think it's being underrated. His defence doesn't look to be the best, his hands do drop when he's throwing combos and he looks a tad clumsy on his feet, then again he is a very big man.

        It's obvious he is dedicated, I've never seen Wilder look out of shape, it's rare to see a heavyweight these days with a six pack.

        Wilder v Banks next should be a good gauge of how good he is, then the Mitchell/Arreola winner and then one of the big European names. Wilder has to step up now, if he falls, then he falls but he has to strike out for the big time before it's too late and he is a 32 year old lacking time.
        I agree with all that. I've got to root for him just being an in shape knockout heavyweight alone. I want to root for guys like Ruiz and Arreola too but I just can't bring myself to it. You just don't deserve it when you won't look like an athelete. You don't have to have the genes that make you look shredded or anything but you can't be jiggling around acting like you want to be the champion. I don't play with that. I'll support a guy like Wilder first for being dedicated.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by daggum View Post
          wilder and he's not afraid to use it. wlad has to wait 7 or 8 rounds for his fat bloated opponents to run out of steam before finally firing it on a sitting duck target.
          hard to say who's is harder. wilders opponents have been dreadful. just becuz wilder is more aggressive with his right hand doesn't make it harder. wlads is a little quicker and its shorter and straighter. Id take wlads right over wilders but wouldnt enjoy getting hit by either of them

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          • #55
            I will have to say Deontay Wilder because he doesn't lack for confidence or hold back on his power like Wladimir. Wlad, likes to fight a slower pace by tying up and clinching his opponents for fear of getting stopped and punching himself out.

            Wilder on the other hand right hand reminds me a lot of a Heavyweight boxer by the name of Earnie shavers. When he used to land those huge right hands, he typically either nearly decapitates, shakes, floors or knockout his opponents. For example, he nearly KO Muhammad Ali and once floored Larry Holmes. Later, both Muhammad Ali and Larry Holmes would admit that Earnie Shavers was the hardest puncher that either fighter has ever faced in their careers.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by ShamrockXpress View Post
              Tyrone Brunson had very hard punches, untill he got in the ring with someone who could fight back. Knocking out people who are there to be knocked out isn't impressive, look what happened to David price when he fought someone that wernt tailor made for him, same thing will happen to wilder. Butterbean probably hits harder than wilder and wlad combined, but ask him to k.o. someone with a bit of movement. I like wilder, but feeding him 29 easy ko's isnt gonna help when he steps up, he needs rounds. I see a Morrison-mercer, Haye-Thompson, wlad-purrity/Brewster scenario playing out.


              i saw brunson fight live, and he wasn't a huge puncher. wilder is a HUGE puncher. liakhovich is at the end of his career, but he always had a good chin and a style that went rounds. he was thrashing around on the ground

              wilder's going to come up short because he got such a late start in boxing, but the power is surely there.

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              • #57
                The fact that there could be a serious case made for Wilder having harder 1 punch power than Prime Lewis or Current Wlad is shockingly impressive in itself.

                Yes he doesn't have all the other assets a Lennox or a Wladimir have... but once again the fact his POWER alone is right up there with them (if not higher) is damn impressive.

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                • #58
                  Wilder. Wlad is probably harder puncher overall.

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                  • #59
                    Slightly OT, but Wlad dropped Wilder in sparring.

                    Originally posted by Jloro View Post
                    GGG's best win is Macklin, who Martinez got **** on for KO'ing. The same people dissing Wilder praise GGG. Double standards I suppose
                    Do you really want to come with that?

                    Wilder's best win is an old Audley Harrison, Golovkin has an amateur record of 345-5 with two top 10 wins over Macklin and Proksa as well as other respectable wins over Ishida, Ouma and Rosado.

                    Originally posted by New England View Post
                    very talented kid, doe. football and basketball, baby. wilder was a prospect for both sports, and started boxing when he was a grown man. you guys wouldnt' even think the dudes in these leagues were real if they all boxed.
                    Wilder isn't really a good argument for the 'other sports' theory, he hasn't achieved anything in the pro ranks yet. Moreover David Haye played rugby, so once again losing competitors to other sports isn't something boxing is immune to elsewhere, no boxing nation is special in that regard.
                    Last edited by Weebler I; 08-11-2013, 02:08 AM.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by The Weebler II View Post
                      Slightly OT, but Wlad dropped Wilder in sparring....
                      Do you have a link?

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