Comments Thread For: Bradley Shakes Head at Marquez Testing: It's a Joke!

[Caxcan]

Thank you, God someone that actually see and applied their God given brains to the whole episode, I don't see anything that suggest JMM doesn't want to get tested, Bradley IMO is spreading baseless rumours to taint JMM in case JMM wins. If JMM claimed he doesn't want to get tested then please someone prove me wrong and show me him saying so, at the end of the day Bradley has got himself in a situation where he can't get out from, he signed to fight under Bob Arum so he must be prepared for all the negativity that comes with fighting for Arum, From previous dealings we knew Arum hates USADA and am not sure if he has any fighters that have been tested under VADA, NSAC coming in is straight up Arum, so instead of Bradley barking he needs to walk the walk instead of trying to taint JMM.

The fact of the matter is that if JMM wanted to avoid blood testing at all costs, he simply would have selected a different opponent. Yet he specifically targeted Bradley and volunteered for testing.

[Caxcan]

That's the word I was searching for...

pretty much. i'm surprised he didn't start passing around a collection plate...

[Rome-By-Ko]

Oh boy lol, so he didn't turn it down then? Got it, I guess promoters have nothing to do with testing too right? Lol... No evidence, no quotes from JMM but hey lets run with anything and make it facts...typical American society mentality.

http://www.boxingscene.com/marquez-b...testing--66837

Here you go,like I said Marquez made an issue about something that both fighters should be happy to do..

Which once again is the reason for people feeling a certain way about Marquez at the moment..

[Rome-By-Ko]

The fact of the matter is that if JMM wanted to avoid blood testing at all costs, he simply would have selected a different opponent. Yet he specifically targeted Bradley and volunteered for testing.

For a certain agency,which his conditioning coach may feel more confident in beating(the test)..Why so gong ho for one and not the other??

[radioraheem]

I don't think you understand how shady vegas is.... And how much pull arum has

I understand how shady boxing is. But it's easier to pull shady stunts using VADA or USADA, versus NSAC doing the random drug testing. Like I said before, Marquez can intentionally miss tests with either VADA and USADA. And there will be no penalty. VADA in particular will only 'fail' him. USADA, will 'fail' him too but try to push for a suspension or ban. NSAC won't respect it though.

But if NSAC is doing the random testing themselves, and Marquez intentionally misses tests by hiding, he will have to answer questions about it. There can be a penalty because of it. Whereas USADA and VADA, he would get away free! And again, in the future, NSAC can potentially do YEAR ROUND random drug testing, where there are penalties for testing positive.

NSAC is actually the lesser evil.

[Ray*]

http://www.boxingscene.com/marquez-b...testing--66837

Here you go,like I said Marquez made an issue about something that both fighters should be happy to do..

Which once again is the reason for people feeling a certain way about Marquez at the moment..

Lol according to your article JMM ready he is willing to comply with Bradley's demand. So what's the issue? Where did he say no like you claimed?

[Ray*]

I understand how shady boxing is. But it's easier to pull shady stunts using VADA or USADA, versus NSAC doing the random drug testing. Like I said before, Marquez can intentionally miss tests with either VADA and USADA. And there will be no penalty. VADA in particular will only 'fail' him. USADA, will 'fail' him too but try to push for a suspension or ban. NSAC won't respect it though.

But if NSAC is doing the random testing themselves, and Marquez intentionally misses tests by hiding, he will have to answer questions about it. There can be a penalty because of it. Whereas USADA and VADA, he would get away free! And again, in the future, NSAC can potentially do YEAR ROUND random drug testing, where there are penalties for testing positive.

NSAC is actually the lesser evil.

Nope, NSAC would just fine him and put that money in their pockets. USADA would straight out ban him, whilst VADA doesn't have much authority yet in what they can do if an athlete turns in a dirty test because they are a private independent company, USADA is a government run/funded agency... I would be more scared of the NSAC to be honest.

[radioraheem]

nah, he just knows USADA can be pushed in a certain direction (winky wright tests thrown out, rumored mayweather tests thrown out, morales allowed to fail twice and then test a third time before testing negative)

everytime VADA was used, they busted somebody. this is why bradley wants vada. Heredia told brandon rios (for the pacquiao fight) that USADA is fine. when VADA started coming up, Heredia told Rios he wasn't interested

this isn't hard to figure out people, it isn't a conspiracy, it's business

This is not true. VADA has only had 2 positive results -- Peterson and Berto. The Peterson case was a scandal where they made several key mistakes.

USADA has had 1 positive result -- Morales. They made some mistakes too.

For 2013 though, both VADA and USADA has had NO positive results. So you're claim that VADA busts everyone is false. Both agencies have had no positive results for 2013. Also, both organizations test for the same things. Neither is better than the other, they both follow the same rules. It's just one is much more expensive -- USADA.

[radioraheem]

Nope, NSAC would just fine him and put that money in their pockets. USADA would straight out ban him, whilst VADA doesn't have much authority yet in what they can do if an athlete turns in a dirty test because they are a private independent company, USADA is a government run/funded agency... I would be more scared of the NSAC to be honest.

USADA would 'ban' him, but NSAC wouldn't follow through with the ban or suspension. NSAC wouldn't respect it, as they like to themselves determine the penalties. So again, it goes back to my point that NSAC doing random drug testing themselves is the lesser evil.

[Ray*]

Another thing is Arum has also claimed that NSAC would be responsible for testing the two fighter from when the fight was announced so where did all these USADA/VADA came from all of a sudden? If Bradley had a problem he needs to look at the fine print of his contract and if he can't read then he needs to get educated people to do so for him.