Was Lennox Lewis in his PRIME when he stopped Vitali Klitschko?

[Jedi Vader]

Everyone knows Vitali is and was better than Lennox.

Remember when George Saint pierre(best ever in mma) lost to Matt hughes first time round, everyone knew that if the rematch happened he would win and dominate.

That's what would have happened if Lenox dared take on the 40 million doller fight. But he listened to his mother instead. Very wise.

[LacedUp]

If you think that HW boxers in particular learn to fight behind their height and jabs in their 20's then you need glasses dude. Lewis became an ATG from 1999-2003..look up who he fought and how he fought.He was in his 30's.

Vlad clearly became an ATG around age 30 as well,when he changed his style.

OBV,you never watched Larry Holmes fight.He was 48-0 up until age 36 !!!!! He was 16-0 from ages 30-36 !!! He perfected his style and lost 2 close decisions to Micahel Spinks after that. He did loose by KO toTyson.He was 13-1 after the loss to Tyson with the loss coming to ATG Holyfield.He beat Ferguson and Ray Mercer in that span too.

Foreman was 15-0 in his 30's !!!!!! Look it up genius. The 40 + year old Foreman that fought Holyfield and was 25-0 in his comeback would have KTFO'd the young reckless George Foreman who just came in to take your head off.

What in the world would make you say such a ****** thing that Vitali became an ATG at the age of 30? That the dumbest thing I've read n this thread, and that's saying a lot. At the age of 30, Vits was known as a quitter with no heart. Hardly ATG material.

Jesus, Bert Sugar, may he rest n peace, would turn in his grave.

And lol at your George Foreman piece.

[STEELHEAD]

What in the world would make you say such a ****** thing that Vitali became an ATG at the age of 30? That the dumbest thing I've read n this thread, and that's saying a lot. At the age of 30, Vits was known as a quitter with no heart. Hardly ATG material.

Jesus, Bert Sugar, may he rest n peace, would turn in his grave.

And lol at your George Foreman piece.

" At the age of 30, Vits was known as a quitter with no heart. Hardly ATG material. "

thanks for bringing that point up. newer members may not have been into boxing at that time. both klits were thought to have questionable hearts.
and talk of bad stamina and them always getting injured from steroid use was heard.
and even sportscasters made fun of them. i recall seeing non flattery cartoons of them. this was before they were in contention for hvwt titles
and before they had their tunney/carnivore type fan clubs. that all happened after lennox retired.

[marvelousmatt]

What in the world would make you say such a ****** thing that Vitali became an ATG at the age of 30? That the dumbest thing I've read n this thread, and that's saying a lot. At the age of 30, Vits was known as a quitter with no heart. Hardly ATG material.

Jesus, Bert Sugar, may he rest n peace, would turn in his grave.

And lol at your George Foreman piece.

Dude,you really need to learn to read man. There is no mention of Vitali...anywhere in my post.

The original question was whether or not Lewis was in his prime when he fought Vitali ? My answer was that Lewis was towards the end of his prime. Lewis' prime was 1999-2003,that is when he became an ATG. My rebutall was about HW boxers getting way better around the magic HW age of 30.

My post above says ...Vlad.

[marvelousmatt]

Dude,you really need to learn to read man. There is no mention of Vitali...anywhere in my post.

The original question was whether or not Lewis was in his prime when he fought Vitali ? My answer was that Lewis was towards the end of his prime. Lewis' prime was 1999-2003,that is when he became an ATG. My rebutall was about HW boxers getting way better around the magic HW age of 30.

My post above says ...Vlad.

As matter of fact,Vitali actually gained more in loss to Lewis than any previous wins up until that point in his career.Vitali built his legacy after this great fight and went on to only get better after that fight in 2003 when he did show tons of heart. I remember him quitting vs Chris Byrd and thinking if he really wants to do this.He obv proved that he does and became a top 10 HW ATG.

[pistol whip]

" At the age of 30, Vits was known as a quitter with no heart. Hardly ATG material. "

But boxing fans are usually full of sheeet when it comes to that whole quitting nonsense so who gives a *** that ain't no kind of argument against vitali being an ATG.

[Poet682006]

LOL at the five spastics that voted "yes" :hahahaha9:

[Jedi Vader]

LOL at the five spastics that voted "yes" :hahahaha9:

Bon Scott, Fresno, marvelousmatt, nachorjj, revs1227

[LacedUp]

Dude,you really need to learn to read man. There is no mention of Vitali...anywhere in my post.

The original question was whether or not Lewis was in his prime when he fought Vitali ? My answer was that Lewis was towards the end of his prime. Lewis' prime was 1999-2003,that is when he became an ATG. My rebutall was about HW boxers getting way better around the magic HW age of 30.

My post above says ...Vlad.

My mistake. I thought it said Vitali.

However, according to memory (and the Internet) didn't Wlad turn 30 right around the first Peter fight? To say he was an ATG at that time is also not true.

At the time Wlad was seen as a skillful fighter, yes, but no heart and no chin. People couldn't tell the difference between him and Vitali, and every time we saw Wlad at the time, he either got KD or KOd.

If Wlad is an ATG, it was only proved after Haye IMO. After that fight, he had come out on top in two different eras.

With regards to Lennox, his prime was nowhere near 1999-2003. I don't know why you guys insist on saying that? You have to realize that when the first Holyfield fight came along, they were both out of their natural prime and everyone were saying they wished it happened from 95-97. Lewis was still just good enough to sweep all competition in that time.

And to the original question, how can you be prime when you come in at your highest weight ever, he started his career at 229 and finished at 257. He took the fight on two weeks notice. He's been talking about retirement since the second Holyfield fight.

It would like me Haye beat a prime Vitali if they met.

[yoz]

Everyone knows Vitali is and was better than Lennox.

Remember when George Saint pierre(best ever in mma) lost to Matt hughes first time round, everyone knew that if the rematch happened he would win and dominate.

That's what would have happened if Lenox dared take on the 40 million doller fight. But he listened to his mother instead. Very wise.

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