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People on this website are not very good at understanding definitions. Pound for pound. Hmmm what could that possibly mean? It means regardless of weight, who is the most unbeatable in the sport. Essentially in a fantasy tournament who would be betting favorite to win. Now it can be tough to picture exactly how weight/size is factored in but I usually think like this. If I was to determine who is P4P out of lets say Floyd and Vitali. I would say Vitali is 6ft 7. That is a good perhaps 4-5 inches taller than the division average, he has a 79 inch reach (I think) which whilst being large, is not long for his height. I would then say Floyd is 5ft 8 (I think) which seems about average for the division with a 72inch reach (I think) which is long for the division and his height. So let us bring Floyd up to heavyweight. He would be average height (6ft 2 or 6ft 3 ish) with a long reach of maybe 78 or 79. So he would be similar in stature to someone like David Haye if we scaled him up. Then you factor in things like, speed averages, power averages etc etc and you think if I could scale these guys to be the same size and they were still a lot faster than the weight average or slower or more powerful or less powerful than the average and I thought who would win in a fantasy match? Mayweather would be favorite in more fantasy matchups of this nature than any other fighter at the moment. Now as you can tell this is all dodgy, subjective stuff but that is how it is.
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I am a big Calzaghe fan and although he was once P4P #2 his style is made for Floyd. I think (even though I scored it a JC win) we saw in the Hopkins fight that Joe can be susceptible to a pot-shotting, defensive style. I think it is fair to say at the time Calzaghe was boxing, FMJ was better than Hopkins and P4P would give Calzaghe hell.
Ward on the other hand is a much tighter affair. It is purely subjective and I would have no arguments with people thinking Ward P4P would beat Floyd but I would beg to differ. It is hard to give any form of argument that holds any form of weight as everything I say about the P4P match up can be disputed but I just think Floyd has a lot more depth to his boxing. He has shown a rare versatility in his last few fights where he has shown us something new each fight. Ward, whilst being very very good, just doesn't quite have that same depth to my eyes, he has a much more tried and tested method about his boxing whereas Floyd seems to have a much more improvised, on the fly method where he can react and adapt to his opponent. I don't know, I wouldn't argue with anyone who says otherwise but it would be true to say the majority of the boxing community agree Floyd is P4P #1 and as it is based on "the betting favorite" in fantasy fights, you can only really go with the guy who is favorite in the minds of the majority.Comment
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I don't hate flaccid...i just don't buy into his bullsh it that he is the greatest just because he beats the guy that he himself chose to fight. If flaccid beat the guys that the public wanted him to fight then i would have no problem considering him the best. For example, broner is acting like tough sh it but he is fighting guys that arent a threat. Why hasnt he fought mattysse or maidana yet? Just like flaccid, fighting old, small, or c class opponents.
Flaccid steps up and fights canelo but with a catchweight...wtf is that. I can care less if flaccid destroys canelo because canelo was put at a disadvantage. Does anyone think that floyd would sign up for a fight if he was put at a disadvantage? He wouldnt even entertain that proposal. A true #1 champion would never act in that way, let alone chose subpar opponents. If you can't see through this bullsh it te lo metieron mongoComment
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Floyd isn't the bestfighter, everyone knows that.
He is the best at something though, but there are people better at other things. And also fight tougher opponents than Floyd does and more regularly.Comment
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It's clearer than ever Floyd's p4p #1. As much as I don't like the guys manipulating, cherry picking persona it's without question he's the best and one of the best in a long long time.
Ward is overrated. The SMW division went from being weak in peoples assessment one day, to one of the deepest the day the SMW tourney was announced.
I like Martinez but he doesn't have any notable wins to make a #1 claim, and it's highly debatable whether he beat Murray or not.
Manny's been thrust way too far down the list after what was actually a win against Bradley, and an unfortunate KO against an old foe. He'll climb again but no ones threatening Floyd.Comment
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