JCC (prime) vs Pacman

[mexicomanda1]

i forgot to mention and meldrick taylor (pre-chavez I) AND pernell whitaker would have made pacquiao look like an amateur.

[Chups]

i forgot to mention and meldrick taylor (pre-chavez I) AND pernell whitaker would have made pacquiao look like an amateur.

I agree with you.
During Taylor and Pernell's times, Pacquiao was indeed still in the amateurs.

[MayweatherJr.]

Do you think Pacquiao is quicker than Meldrick Taylor?

Do you think Kostya Tszyu was quicker than Zab Judah?

Speed can be timed and factor in the size and strength advantage of JCC and you have a bit of a mismatch.

The mistake Taylor made was he didn't use his speed and footwork the night he fought Julio Chavez. Being a philly kid, Taylor traded with a brawler and that's a no no.

[IMDAZED]

That's awful comparison. They are two different fighters. One is a counterpuncher and the other is a brawler.

Yeah. One is also an ATG who won titles up to 140. The other couldn't sniff his jockstrap.

[IMDAZED]

The mistake Taylor made was he didn't use his speed and footwork the night he fought Julio Chavez. Being a philly kid, Taylor traded with a brawler and that's a no no.

Taylor fought the way he always does. He didn't have any other style - he was there to be hit and anyone there to be hit was getting KO'ed by a prime Chavez.

[MayweatherJr.]

Taylor fought the way he always does. He didn't have any other style - he was there to be hit and anyone there to be hit was getting KO'ed by a prime Chavez.

No, he could've used his speed and footwork. He made a mistake yet he beat Julio too bad he was robbed. Everyone who just started watching boxing would be impressed with Julio's resume but a quick glipse at boxrec will change all that. Even in his prime, Julio was fighting guys with 0-0-0 record. That's pathetic for someone who's considered an atg like Julio Chavez.

[IMDAZED]

No, he could've used his speed and footwork. He made a mistake yet he beat Julio too bad he was robbed. Everyone who just started watching boxing would be impressed with Julio's resume but a quick glipse at boxrec will change all that. Even in his prime, Julio was fighting guys with 0-0-0 record. That's pathetic for someone who's considered an atg like Julio Chavez.

Only people who just started watching boxing need boxrec. Can't believe you're actually telling people to go look on there. Stats tell you half the story - how do you get the rest when youve never seen the fights, know the fighters or understand where they stood at the time?

I actually remember watching Chavez on ABC's wide world of sports and I watched his bouts against Whitaker & Taylor live. In fact, I have copies today.

And Taylor DID use his speed and footwork. What don't you get? You need to watch the fight - that's the way Taylor ALWAYS fights. How do you think he won all those rounds against Chavez, outslugging him? He did what he always did, zip in and out with combinations. Just stop it, man.

[MayweatherJr.]

Only people who just started watching boxing need boxrec. Can't believe you're actually telling people to go look on there. Stats tell you half the story - how do you get the rest when youve never seen the fights, know the fighters or understand where they stood at the time?

I actually remember watching Chavez on ABC's wide world of sports and I watched his bouts against Whitaker & Taylor live. In fact, I have copies today.

And Taylor DID use his speed and footwork. What don't you get? You need to watch the fight - that's the way Taylor ALWAYS fights. How do you think he won all those rounds against Chavez, outslugging him? He did what he always did, zip in and out with combinations. Just stop it, man.

Did I tell a lie about him fighting guys with 0-0-0 records in his prime? Of course not. Tell me it aint pathetic.

And he lost both fights. Anyone who disagrees don't know **** about boxing. He could've fought like Floyd but he chose not to. How do you think he got caught in the last round if he had used he's speed and footwork?

[IMDAZED]

Did I tell a lie about him fighting guys with 0-0-0 records in his prime? Of course not. Tell me it aint pathetic.

And he lost both fights. Anyone who disagrees don't know **** about boxing. He could've fought like Floyd but he chose not to. How do you think he got caught in the last round if he had used he's speed and footwork?

A lot of fighters did that back then to stay active. How many fighters do you know massacred guys like Haugen, Rosario, Camacho, and on, and on. How about you look at those guys on the resume? I mean, I don't hear anyone touting JCC because he beat someone 0-0. It's because of the people he beat you don't want to mention.

Ok..so he lost both fights. So then how come you keep saying Taylor would've WON had he used his speed and footwork? LOL.

And finally dog, tell the truth - you've seen maybe one Meldrick Taylor fight your whole career. Because if you saw MORE, you wouldn't even dare make that comment.

Just because a fighter has fast hands and legs doesn't means he fights or should fight like the next guy who has fast hands and legs! LMAO. Yeah, who doesn't know boxing?

Taylor was a Philly fighter - it was always his instinct to fight fire with fire. He ALWAYS fought like that. It backfired against Chavez but stop acting like he chose not to use his speed and footwork. He used BOTH like he always did. And like he always did, he also stood and FOUGHT at times.

Dude, I don't even wanna argue - I'd rather you go do your homework than for you to try and defend what you're saying just so you don't look wrong. You are - and if anyone else on here watched Taylor, they'd tell you that!

[ferocity]

Did I tell a lie about him fighting guys with 0-0-0 records in his prime? Of course not. Tell me it aint pathetic.

And he lost both fights. Anyone who disagrees don't know **** about boxing. He could've fought like Floyd but he chose not to. How do you think he got caught in the last round if he had used he's speed and footwork?

stop being a boxrec groupie and pay attention to why they don't have the boxers records

I could post a video of a boxer that was 14-1 when he fought Chavez but boxrec has him at 0-0-0 so stfu, Chavez would have step rolled over Mayweather