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  • Jedi Vader
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    #31
    Originally posted by Freedom2013
    So you're a racist.

    Are you a black supremacist from the Nation of Islam? A follower of Farrakhan?


    1. Lewis
    2. Mayweather
    3. Pacquiao
    4. Jones Jnr
    5. Whitaker

    Had Floyd fought Pac, I'd have him at number 1. Had Hopkins beat Calzaghe and beat Roy Jones in 1993, I'd have him at number 5.

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    • Sugar Adam Ali
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      #32
      Originally posted by 8thSamurai
      Ezzard Charles lost a ton past his prime and he is still one of the greatest ever.

      a top 15 modern fighter list would go whitaker, jones, hopkins, maywetaher, holyfield, pacquiao, mccallum, azumah nelson, Delahoya, Morales, toney, barrera, marquez, Lennox, Calzaghe
      this list seems pretty accurate,, not sure of the ranking but seems like a good set of names,,, not sure about morales.... love the guy but i think i would have ricardo lopez,, morales lost IMO all 3 to MAB, plus 2 out of 3 to manny,,, really doesnt have a huge signature win except for manny 1.....

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      • soul_survivor
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        #33
        Originally posted by Aztec Wanker
        1. Floyd Mayweather Jr. - Say what you say about this man, but he might be the greatest fighter of our generation. Started at JLW and won titles there and in 4 other weight classes, maintaining a perfect record. Wins over P4P Puncher Diego Corrales, body snatcher Jose Luis Castillo and rugged Ricky Hatton of the UK are his biggest wins. Lack of risks career-wise will be his only blemish.

        2. Bernard Hopkins - Bernard Hopkins is a genius in the ring, plain and simple. He is to boxing what Prince is to pop music or what Fyodor Dostoevsky is to literature. There is no denying this man's talent and legacy. 20 defenses of the Middleweight title, then at age 41, skipped a weight class and fought Light Heavyweight King Antonio Tarver, who was coming off two excellent wins over Roy Jones Jr., giving him a thorough boxing lesson. He followed it up with a win over future hall of famer Winky Wright, then dropped a controversial split decision to Super Middleweight Joe Calzaghe. Bernard defied Father Time once again and schooled the young lion, Middleweight Champion Kelly Pavlik. 'Nard is an ATG without a doubt.


        3. James Toney - The most complete fighter IMO. He was an underrated puncher, hands so fast, he'd make Calzaghe blush. Great defense and a granite chin (only down 3 times in 70+ fights). He started his career at Middleweight, then moved up to Super Middleweight where he showed sensational skills. Also won titles at Cruserweight and Heavyweight where he tested positive for steroids. Other than the steroid mess at HW, his only flaw was his lack of discipline. Had he been more dedicated to his training, he probably would have been an undefeated, top 10 P4P all-time-great fighter.


        4. Roy Jones Jr. - Superman himself. The P4P King of the 90's. He would make title fights look like sparring sessions. Ruled the Middleweight, Super Middleweight, Light Heavyweight divisions. In 2003, he shocked the sports world when he made the jump to Heavyweight and won the title from John Ruiz. An exciting, unorthodox style with blinding handspeed made me a fan of his. Great fighter.

        5. Pernell Whitaker - I am a person that loves and appreciates defense and there wasn't a boxer on Earth that came close to "Sweet Pea" defensively. He would school his opponents with awesome upper-body and head movement and slick combinations. Will go down in history as the first man to defeat Julio Cesar Chavez, although as we all know, he got a bogus Draw instead of a Unanimous Decision that he deserved.
        WTF kinda list is this? No Manny? Whitaker above JCC? Hopkins below Mayweather? Toney above a tonne of better, more accomplished fighters? Na bro that **** is ******ed, are you one of the mods?

        My list, a far more respectable list:

        Hopkins
        JCC
        Pacquiao
        RJJ
        Mayweather/Lewis/Whitaker

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        • LeG00N
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          #34
          no offense TS but your list is horrible.

          My list in no particular order

          Pacquiao
          W.Klistchko
          Morales
          JMM
          Calzaghe

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          • 8thSamurai
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            #35
            Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
            this list seems pretty accurate,, not sure of the ranking but seems like a good set of names,,, not sure about morales.... love the guy but i think i would have ricardo lopez,, morales lost IMO all 3 to MAB, plus 2 out of 3 to manny,,, really doesnt have a huge signature win except for manny 1.....
            Morales' wins over Zaragoza, Pacquiao, Barrera and Jones, his titles in various weights crap on whatever Lopez did i think.... Who was Lopez' best win? A disputed division over Alvarez who isn't even a Hall of Famer.

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              #36
              Originally posted by soul_survivor
              My list, a far more respectable list:

              Hopkins
              JCC
              Pacquiao
              RJJ
              Mayweather/Lewis/Whitaker
              based on what!?!? Hopkins over Chavez? lol

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              • IronDanHamza
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                #37
                Originally posted by DempseyRollin
                all belong there but if u are gonna include pernell then wheres lewis and holyfield?
                Lennox Lewis isn't even in the same stratosphere as Pernell Whitaker.

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                • waxfondler
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Aztec Wanker
                  1. Floyd Mayweather Jr. - Say what you say about this man, but he might be the greatest fighter of our generation. Started at JLW and won titles there and in 4 other weight classes, maintaining a perfect record. Wins over P4P Puncher Diego Corrales, body snatcher Jose Luis Castillo and rugged Ricky Hatton of the UK are his biggest wins. Lack of risks career-wise will be his only blemish.

                  2. Bernard Hopkins - Bernard Hopkins is a genius in the ring, plain and simple. He is to boxing what Prince is to pop music or what Fyodor Dostoevsky is to literature. There is no denying this man's talent and legacy. 20 defenses of the Middleweight title, then at age 41, skipped a weight class and fought Light Heavyweight King Antonio Tarver, who was coming off two excellent wins over Roy Jones Jr., giving him a thorough boxing lesson. He followed it up with a win over future hall of famer Winky Wright, then dropped a controversial split decision to Super Middleweight Joe Calzaghe. Bernard defied Father Time once again and schooled the young lion, Middleweight Champion Kelly Pavlik. 'Nard is an ATG without a doubt.


                  3. James Toney - The most complete fighter IMO. He was an underrated puncher, hands so fast, he'd make Calzaghe blush. Great defense and a granite chin (only down 3 times in 70+ fights). He started his career at Middleweight, then moved up to Super Middleweight where he showed sensational skills. Also won titles at Cruserweight and Heavyweight where he tested positive for steroids. Other than the steroid mess at HW, his only flaw was his lack of discipline. Had he been more dedicated to his training, he probably would have been an undefeated, top 10 P4P all-time-great fighter.


                  4. Roy Jones Jr. - Superman himself. The P4P King of the 90's. He would make title fights look like sparring sessions. Ruled the Middleweight, Super Middleweight, Light Heavyweight divisions. In 2003, he shocked the sports world when he made the jump to Heavyweight and won the title from John Ruiz. An exciting, unorthodox style with blinding handspeed made me a fan of his. Great fighter.

                  5. Pernell Whitaker - I am a person that loves and appreciates defense and there wasn't a boxer on Earth that came close to "Sweet Pea" defensively. He would school his opponents with awesome upper-body and head movement and slick combinations. Will go down in history as the first man to defeat Julio Cesar Chavez, although as we all know, he got a bogus Draw instead of a Unanimous Decision that he deserved.
                  based off of your list, i would rank them:
                  • whitaker (by far, the sickest defensive fighter)
                  • jones (human highlight reel)
                  • b-hop (not the prettiest, but undeniably genius)
                  • toney (perfected rolling punches)
                  • floyd (latest defensive master)

                  scratching my head that chavez sr & lennox arent on there. they would bump off toney & floyd, IMO.

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                  • Sosay
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                    #39
                    In no order. Floyd,Pac,Hopkins,Lewis,rjj,Toney,marquez,Whittake r,jcc,Oscar

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                    • Sugar Adam Ali
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by 8thSamurai
                      Morales' wins over Zaragoza, Pacquiao, Barrera and Jones, his titles in various weights crap on whatever Lopez did i think.... Who was Lopez' best win? A disputed division over Alvarez who isn't even a Hall of Famer.
                      fair enough,,, im a huge morales fan, i just think lopez was a machine,,,
                      and like i said, i thought barrera won all 3 fights vs morales,,,
                      Junior jones wins arent great,, he is only known as beating a young barrera, which is a great accomplishment but junior never really did anything other than that,, he wasnt that good which is why morales blew him out in 4...
                      But yes, i can see how guys have morales on the list,, i just dont have him on mine

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