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  • slicksouthpaw16
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    #21
    I actually wouldn't give him much of a chance at all to beat Thurman. He's too much.

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    • Syf
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      #22
      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
      This^^^^^^^^^^^

      Dont get me wrong, maidana has improved alot, but he will always lose to the top guys.....
      Bradley manny, floyd would all beat him

      he is pretty much 50/50 with any other names like broner, ghost, khan, peterson,

      Maidana is no club fighter, but he aint no p4p guy either
      so according to you, Ghost, Broner, Khan, and Peterson are gatekeepers?

      Bradley went life and death with Provodnikov.. Prov Maidana has a good chance of beating h2h.. so...Manny I feel, prime, yes would outpoint Maidana.. Now? Not so sure, but Manny was one of the longer odds fights I was thinking about for sure. Floyd I already said probably beats Maidana, its just a horrible style matchup, even with improvements. He'd have a better chance than someone like Ghost and Ortiz had though...

      as for the other names.. its more than 50/50. Ghost loses a war.. Khan gets ko'd badly.. Post PED Peterson gets Ko'd (Maidana actually has similar, if not more power than Matts...).. Broner gets overwhelmed.

      Originally posted by shenmue
      I think Maidana would still struggle with Devon, its an horrible match up, maybe if the ref stops all the holding then Maidana would have a chance with his better punch variety and selection these days.
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      Its a longer odds fight than some others I have mentioned. But I think its imperative he avenge his losses. Its winnable.. he needs to work behind the jab and not overextend himself. And get real rough in the clinch. If he walks on to too many punches fade back like he did against SK and Lopez and look for countering opportunities or a gap in Devon's defenses. working behind the jab and throwing straight shots is key.

      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
      Of course he would.

      Or in reality, he'd lose again and then he'd get a couple of wins over maybe Carson Jones and Kendall Holt then he'd be "a new Maidana" ready to win the third fight with the right strategy!

      He's not a clubfighter. He's just above gatekeeper status - sort of fringe world level.
      C'mon buddy. Khan went life and death with Diaz. A Maidana that works behind the jab bodies him. Devon would be a longer odds fight but Maidana should try to avenge his loss, and its a winnable fight. He can't fight like he did the first time, obviously. But that's what a new coach and implementing the jab is for.

      He's world level.

      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
      I'll be honest with you, I didn't even know either fight was taking place
      I Don't believe that.

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      • Tay Roc
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        #23
        Originally posted by Foolkiller
        I thought his mother was Asian..
        I can neither confirm nor deny this. I've read a rumor that his mother was asian and he has a tattoo of her on his chest!

        Anyone know what his story is?

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        • Syf
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          #24
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          He was supposed to knock him out the first time he landed in the first fight.
          His technique was off in that fight. smothered his shots and loaded up on very wide shots.

          Now he is fighting different..more compact and concise behind the jab. if you took off your Khan glasses you would see.

          Originally posted by Still Burner
          Maidana is ****ing trash. A mediocre fighter at best.
          Paul Williams.

          Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
          I actually wouldn't give him much of a chance at all to beat Thurman. He's too much.
          Thurman is nasty sure. But I believe the reason he beat Chaves is because the guy had serious jitters. He rushed his shots, didn't think a whole lot in there. He was inexperienced despite his potential. Maidana, the veteran, would have no jitters and I think he would take Thurman into deep waters.

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          • DudeN561
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            #25
            Marcos Maidana is a class act boxer. He takes his craft seriously and gives it 100% all the time. As with all athletes, he has his limitations but by no means is he a gate keeper or club fighter. He is at that A-/B+ level. I wish he would have stayed at 140 a bit longer but I guess his body had out grown that division. At 147 he is still someone that you have to reckon with. Just my two cents.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Syf
              C'mon buddy. Khan went life and death with Diaz. A Maidana that works behind the jab bodies him. Devon would be a longer odds fight but Maidana should try to avenge his loss, and its a winnable fight. He can't fight like he did the first time, obviously. But that's what a new coach and implementing the jab is for.

              He's world level.
              Maidana went life and death with DeMarcus Corley. Oh yeah but that was the "Old Maidana" right before he turned into Thomas Hearns in his last couple of fights lol. Even then, he went life and death with Lopez.

              World level even though he's never even won a world title? Ok....

              Originally posted by Syf
              I Don't believe that.
              Believe what you want. I hadn't even realised Maidana had fought Soto Karass until I think you told me a few weeks ago. I watched the Lopez fight the following week and he wasn't even impressive. Lopez had him hurt and was unlucky to get stopped.

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              • Syf
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                #27
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                Even then, he went life and death with Lopez.

                World level even though he's never even won a world title? Ok.....
                Lopez who got stopped? Ok. Lopez went life and death with Ortiz who was considered world level for a while. He broke Ortiz's jaw. It was foregone it would be a tough fight.. but I know Maidana would get him.

                He's never had a title.. really? He was robbed of the lww belt against Kotelnyk. He later got the interim strap by beating Ortiz. Then he got the lww crown by beating Petrov, which he vacated to move up and fight Devon. Do you even know what you are talking about?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Syf
                  Lopez who got stopped? Ok. Lopez went life and death with Ortiz who was considered world level for a while. He broke Ortiz's jaw. It was foregone it would be a tough fight.. but I know Maidana would get him.
                  Your posts are littered with horrible triangle theories that don't even mean anything. Lopez is a gatekeeper and he had Maidana in trouble before the questionable stoppage.

                  Originally posted by Syf
                  He's never had a title.. really? He was robbed of the lww belt against Kotelnyk. He later got the interim strap by beating Ortiz. Then he got the lww crown by beating Petrov. Do you even know what you are talking about?
                  So yeah....he's never won a world title.

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                  • Sugar Adam Ali
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                    #29
                    Everytime maidana steps up he loses,,

                    he had his shot at khan and alexander,, and couldnt get a knockdown on either,,,

                    He looked like garbage in the alexander fight,, i was ringside for it in the STL... He made a comeback towards the end but basically got whitewashed the whole fight...

                    Hell old ancient morales almost got him,,,,

                    So yes i like to watch maidana fight but he is no world beater....

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                    • shenmue
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      Your posts are littered with horrible triangle theories that don't even mean anything. Lopez is a gatekeeper and he had Maidana in trouble before the questionable stoppage.



                      So yeah....he's never won a world title.
                      The WBA class the Regular title as a Legit championship, i know its ****** and confusing. Brandon Rios had the same belts and he calls himself a former champion same as that Russian who holds the WBA regular title at LWW he always get labeled a World champion by fans on here and by Journalists.

                      I actually agree that maidana has never held a True title but technically speaking he is a former World Champion according to the WBA and its record books. I think he beat Kotelnik anyway so he was a bit unlucky there. Close fight though.

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