How would you rate Ward's resume?

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  • fishscale
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    #21
    Originally posted by Jack Napier
    Ward's #1 p4p, nobody's resume in recent yrs matches his
    Froch
    Kessler
    Bika
    Abraham
    Green
    Dawson

    Froch:

    Kessler
    Bute
    Abraham
    Dirrell
    Pascal
    Johnson

    If Ward is #1 p4p that puts Froch at least at #5 p4p.

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    • Jack Napier
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      #22
      Originally posted by fishscale
      Froch
      Kessler
      Bika
      Abraham
      Green
      Dawson

      Froch:

      Kessler
      Bute
      Abraham
      Dirrell
      Pascal
      Johnson

      If Ward is #1 p4p that puts Froch at least at #5 p4p.
      no argument on that point, Froch's res is top shelf too
      these guys have consistently taken on good opponents
      Ring has Alvarez, Bradley, and Broner on the list, but no Froch
      both that, and Floyd being ahead of Ward is disgusting

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      • Sugar Adam Ali
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        #23
        Originally posted by fishscale
        Froch
        Kessler
        Bika
        Abraham
        Green
        Dawson

        Froch:

        Kessler
        Bute
        Abraham
        Dirrell
        Pascal
        Johnson

        If Ward is #1 p4p that puts Froch at least at #5 p4p.
        Except for the fact that Ward dominated froch one-handed,,, Ward on another level than froch.... i will admit that froch should get consideration on p4p 8-10 not 5

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        • 4Corners
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          #24
          Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
          Yes the weight was a huge factor,, Im just saying he wasnt done going into the fight,, but now after the weight drained beating he is done at the elite level, hence why stevenson blew him out in a minute.


          Manny should have beaten undefeated bradley, fought jmm, fighting rios, before bradley he beat jmm, shane ,margs, clottey, etc If going by straight up wins, then yes manny isnt near mares and ward,,, but manny is always fighting a top guy,, no easy fights,, hell his tuneup is vs rios...



          Yes dawson was drained but he did call out ward and said he would go to that weight,, backfired on him, and his career will never be the same after that beating... even if the fight was at 175, ward beats him
          Margarito, Mosley, and Marquez 3 were NOT good fights, at all. Rios is not a good win or fight, it's acceptable because Pacquiao was knocked out in his last fight. Bradley was his first good fight since Cotto and his first acceptable fight since Clottey.

          Yeah but that's an IF, we aren't talking about 1-2 lbs here, we're talking 7 lbs he had to get down.

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            #25
            Originally posted by JAB5239
            Excellent resume to this point, but he needs to get back in the ring. I'm not a fan of long layoffs for any fighter.
            Injury, not his choice. Now if he were to retire when his division got stacked, then your argument would be valid.

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            • 4Corners
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              #26
              Originally posted by Jack Napier
              no argument on that point, Froch's res is top shelf too
              these guys have consistently taken on good opponents
              Ring has Alvarez, Bradley, and Broner on the list, but no Froch
              both that, and Floyd being ahead of Ward is disgusting
              Not really. Since Froch, all Ward has done was beating Dawson who was 7 lbs south of his weight, and was fighting somewhere he hadn't been in 6 years.

              Floyd's picked up a couple decent/solid wins over Cotto and Guerrero, and is now fighting the #1 guy at 154, though they are meeting at 152. Imagine if Floyd fought Canelo at 147, would people still be calling that a good win for him??? Hell no.

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              • 4Corners
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                #27
                Here's my Top 10 P4P:

                Mayweather
                Ward
                Marquez
                Rigondeaux (the biggest snub on RING's P4P list)
                Mares
                Wlad
                Pacquiao
                Martinez
                Froch
                Donaire (still one of the best fighters in the world)

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                • Sugar Adam Ali
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by 4Corners
                  Margarito, Mosley, and Marquez 3 were NOT good fights, at all. Rios is not a good win or fight, it's acceptable because Pacquiao was knocked out in his last fight. Bradley was his first good fight since Cotto and his first acceptable fight since Clottey.

                  Yeah but that's an IF, we aren't talking about 1-2 lbs here, we're talking 7 lbs he had to get down.
                  How can fighting JMM 3 not be considered a tough fight for manny,, its his arch rival... Grant it shane was pretty much done, but manny handled him more than floyd and canelo did,,, Margs fight was tough just because the size difference,, Margs was huge compared to manny..... It would be like froch or ward fighting a cruiserweight

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                    #29
                    Very good resume but should wait a little longer till he fights GGG. That fight needs to build up. Ward wins that fight.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by 4Corners
                      I think Ward gets his due though, I mean the only fighter P4P better than him right now is Mayweather.

                      Mares is the really underrated one in my opinion.

                      Since 2010, he's beaten Darchinyan, Agbeko, Moreno, Ponce, and deserved a win over Perez too. And Mares-Ponce was a pick em' fight, and almost everyone thought Moreno would school him.
                      Please mayweather hasn't beaten anyone noteworthy in years Ward resume is much better as of late mayweather is just a fraud cherry picker whos avoided all his legitimate rivals to fight propped up cherries like guerrero and ortiz or a marquez that wasn't ready for the weight difference when Mayweather forced him up 3 divisions. The only reason hes even fighting Canelo is because hes tired of everyone calling him out on his ducking and dodging and he knows hes inexperienced.

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