How would you rate Ward's resume?

[4Corners]

How can fighting JMM 3 not be considered a tough fight for manny,, its his arch rival... Grant it shane was pretty much done, but manny handled him more than floyd and canelo did,,, Margs fight was tough just because the size difference,, Margs was huge compared to manny..... It would be like froch or ward fighting a cruiserweight

Well the only time Marquez had been at that weight prior to Pac-JMM 3 was a one sided dominating loss to Mayweather. Marquez 3 and 4 actually validated Floyd's win over Marquez a little bit.

Margarito big or not was still coming off a stoppage loss to Mosley, Mosley was coming off a dominating loss to Mayweather and what should have been a loss to Mora probably. None of those were good wins.

I was hyped when Pacquiao fought Bradley though, that was his best opponent since Marquez 2 probably, and his first good fight since Cotto and Clottey.

[Jack Napier]

Not really. Since Froch, all Ward has done was beating Dawson who was 7 lbs south of his weight, and was fighting somewhere he hadn't been in 6 years.

Floyd's picked up a couple decent/solid wins over Cotto and Guerrero, and is now fighting the #1 guy at 154, though they are meeting at 152. Imagine if Floyd fought Canelo at 147, would people still be calling that a good win for him??? Hell no.

Dawson picked the weight, not Ward's fault
would pick Ward to beat his ass similarly at LHW, just not by a KO
Floyd has pedestrian wins over Guerrero, Cotto, and Ortiz
none of those guys are special and neither is Alvarez
those wins are all credible for Floyd, but not special
there is no justifying Floyd ranking ahead of Ward, NONE

[4Corners]

Please mayweather hasn't beaten anyone noteworthy in years Ward resume is much better as of late mayweather is just a fraud cherry picker whos avoided all his legitimate rivals to fight propped up cherries like guerrero and ortiz or a marquez that wasn't ready for the weight difference when Mayweather forced him up 3 divisions. The only reason hes even fighting Canelo is because hes tired of everyone calling him out on his ducking and dodging and he knows hes inexperienced.

Here we go. The Canelo is inexperienced s**t starts......

Mosley, Ortiz, Cotto, and Guerrero were all top ranked fighters at those weight classes at the time, and Marquez looks a hell of a lot better now, even though it was crap at the time.

Ward hasn't done anything that's worth rating since Froch.

[4Corners]

Dawson picked the weight, not Ward's fault
would pick Ward to beat his ass similarly at LHW, just not by a KO
Floyd has pedestrian wins over Guerrero, Cotto, and Ortiz
none of those guys are elite and neither is Alvarez
those wins are all credible for Floyd, but not special
there is no justifying Floyd ranking ahead of Ward, NONE

Who was elite Ward beat, aside from Froch and Dawson??? And we can cross off Dawson because the weight was such a drastic drop.

Kessler is a good, but was he "elite"???

Alvarez beat Trout, and is the #1 guy at JMW. Guerrero was a decent win over a Top 5 WW, same with Ortiz at the time, and same with Cotto at JMW.

[-PBP-]

I rate in an "A" because he's beaten everybody that he should have at this point in his career.

[Jack Napier]

Who was elite Ward beat, aside from Froch and Dawson??? And we can cross off Dawson because the weight was such a drastic drop.

Kessler is a good, but was he "elite"???

Alvarez beat Trout, and is the #1 guy at JMW. Guerrero was a decent win over a Top 5 WW, same with Ortiz at the time, and same with Cotto at JMW.

Ward mopped up his division, unified, and established lineage
he beat everybody there who was ranked, and in succession
only guy he missed was the 1 guy who wasn't in the series
and don't make excuses for Dawson, he picked the fucking weight
Alvarez has 1 legit win, over Trout, a decent but so so fighter
Guerrero and Ortiz beat Berto, whoopty doo
Cotto beat 1 legged Yuri, shot Mayorga, and 1 eyed shot Margarito
ranking Floyd over Ward is fucking de****able
Floyd's done nothing of note since he beat Hatton in 07
"p4p #1" is part of Floyd's Money persona, it hasn't been legit in yrs

[4Corners]

Ward's is good, no doubt. But it's getting into the rear view now, it's been almost 2 years since his last credible win.

[4Corners]

Ward mopped up his division, unified, and established lineage
he beat everybody there who was ranked, and in succession
only guy he missed was the 1 guy who wasn't in the series
and don't make excuses for Dawson, he picked the fucking weight
Alvarez has 1 legit win, over Trout, a decent but so so fighter
Guerrero and Ortiz beat Berto, whoopty doo
Cotto beat 1 legged Yuri, shot Mayorga, and 1 eyed shot Margarito
ranking Floyd over Ward is fucking de****able
Floyd's done nothing of note since he beat Hatton in 07
"p4p #1" is part of Floyd's Money persona, it hasn't been legit in yrs

So beating ranked fighters at your weight class isn't of note for Mayweather, but when Ward beats Bika and Abraham, guys who probably aren't as good as Guerrero or Cotto, they are note worthy.

Cotto and Guerrero aren't massive wins or anything, but they're solid wins. Ward hasn't gotten a solid win since Froch.

Dawson isn't a credible win, it was impressive because of how good Ward looked, but it was against a guy who was 7 lbs south of his weight.

Trout is so so??? Trout beat Cotto handily and Rodriguez when Delvin was actually Top 10 at 154, and plenty of people were picking Trout to beat Canelo, myself included.

Mayweather's also getting more active, which is a good thing. Ward was hurt, but he was going to fight Kelly Pavlik of all people.

[Jack Napier]

So beating ranked fighters at your weight class isn't of note for Mayweather, but when Ward beats Bika and Abraham, guys who probably aren't as good as Guerrero or Cotto, they are note worthy.

Cotto and Guerrero aren't massive wins or anything, but they're solid wins. Ward hasn't gotten a solid win since Froch.

Dawson isn't a credible win, it was impressive because of how good Ward looked, but it was against a guy who was 7 lbs south of his weight.

Trout is so so??? Trout beat Cotto handily and Rodriguez when Delvin was actually Top 10 at 154, and plenty of people were picking Trout to beat Canelo, myself included.

Ward cleaning out 168>Floyd beating 2 guys who beat Berto
Ward beating Dawson at SMW>Floyd beating shot Cotto at JMW
if you can't see that, don't know what the fuck to tell you
Floyd's a bigger star than Ward and gets rated higher solely for that
Ward's resume in recent yrs shits all over Floyd's

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Ward is the beswt fighter not named floyd......

I had ward ahead of floyd following ward's wins over froch and dawson and the way floyd looked mortal vs cotto.... but with ward being injured and floyd totally dominating and shutting down ghost, i moved floyd back to number 1,,,, Guerrero was a legit challenger and floyd made him look like sparring partner,,,, Nobody else at welter except for manny would be able to so easily beat up ghost,,, he would give hell to any fighter at welter, yet floyd made it look easy..