Can you be considered an ATG when these are your 10 best wins?

[JAB5239]

a loss is a loss lol.it doesnt change what happened in the fight.what would their have been to prove in a rematch?that he could he could make it to the 12th rnd without injury lol.fight was boring,byrd got whooped.end of story

All rounds were close and the punch stats are indicative of that. Plus Vits was huffing and puffing by the 5th. Scorecards don't tell the whole story, you should actually watch the fights. On top of that Byrd went to Germany on a weeks notice.

[JAB5239]

Look at Jab touting a list that he compiled from picking out names he liked from other peoples' lists and now spreading it like it's the definitive list of greatness in the history of the HW division. Your list is a joke, much like everything else pertaining to you.

Everybody is a bozo, yet you have Lennox Lewis ranked #6 on your joke of a list.

Stop pretending that you know logic or reason because you do not. You are legitimately one of the dumbest people on this forum because of the fact that you do not realize how dumb you are. Those are the worst kinds of idiots, because the conversation cannot move forward because you always think you're right.

The only bozo in this thread is the 50 year old overweight ****** who collects disability and unemployment and has several aliases on this site but is commonly known as Jab5239

Still bitter and trolling, eh Carlos?

[Jedi Vader]

Why are you so obsessed with trying to get people to say vitali is an atg? Why isn't saying 'yeah he's not bad one of the best in recent years' good enough for you?

I mean what's going on with that? No doubt you will either not answer or simply reply with a question as is usual for you. But how about just answering something for once?

What win on Vitali's record makes him indisputably an ATG? Come on just name one win that we can point to and 'say yeah you know what he's an atg'. If you can't do that or just answer this with another question, just give up because you aren't going to win the debate by answering questions with questions and talking about him being dominant against bums.

Tremendous post. I guarantee you that he doesn't answer what Klit wins make him ATG.

If you bothered to read my posts in the thread, you'd know that it's not what I'm saying. I want a defintion of an ATG or else it's not possible to answer the OP. I asked the question as early as post 6 and it took 350 posts before one was given.

If people voting that Vitali is an ATG has a cut off at 50 then it's perfectly reasonable and thats why all the ridicule is so hypocritical.

It's not about one win, but body of work and dominance. It's not like this era is great it's more like the era of Holmes, Louis etc.

Others, like Lewis, have losses that prevents them from getting the ATG tag in my book.

[JAB5239]

Tremendous post. I guarantee you that he doesn't answer what Klit wins make him ATG.

In his defense, even after acting like a trolling douche, he did say he doesn't consider Vits an ATG and reserves that foe the creme dela creme based on his resume. H2h is a different story, and contrary to being accused of having an agenda I agree with that..

[Jedi Vader]

In his defense, even after acting like a trolling douche, he did say he doesn't consider Vits an ATG and reserves that foe the creme dela creme based on his resume. H2h is a different story, and contrary to being accused of having an agenda I agree with that..

If you look at his quotes on my sigs, we can conclude that he doesn't see Klitimir and Lewis as ATG's. He says it's about body of work and dominance, yet he thinks it's debatable that Holmes is an ATG also???

The guy is completely inconsistent.

How about he gives a list of his top 20 instead of asking everyone else for theirs.

[JAB5239]

If you look at his quotes on my sigs, we can conclude that he doesn't see Klitimir and Lewis as ATG's. He says it's about body of work and dominance, yet he thinks it's debatable that Holmes is an ATG also???

The guy is completely inconsistent.

How about he gives a list of his top 20 instead of asking everyone else for theirs.

In my opinion those are arguments for a different thread unless it directly correlates into trying to Call Vits an ATG.

[r.burgundy]

All rounds were close and the punch stats are indicative of that. Plus Vits was huffing and puffing by the 5th. Scorecards don't tell the whole story, you should actually watch the fights. On top of that Byrd went to Germany on a weeks notice.

scorecards dont tell the whole story but your quick to point out the loss lol.ok.ive seen the fight,byrd was game as always but he was getting his ass kicked.their was 0 call for a rematch from anybody

[r.burgundy]

Lol, Marciano beat 2 ATG's and was undefeated. Impossible to rank Vittles ahead of him based on resume.

what lol?charles and joe louis were 347 years old when rock fought them lol.i guess we should give holmes props for the ali win,which is his only win over an atg i might add

[r.burgundy]

By saying Norton "dominated Ali" lets me know t you haven't watched their fights. Thanks for playing though!

norton didnt dominate ali in the 1st and 3rd fights lol???you cant be serious.norton deserves arguably 3 wins over ali.how is that not domination lol.he kicked ali's ass.norton ali 3 is a top 5 robbery in this sport

[JAB5239]

what lol?charles and joe louis were 347 years old when rock fought them lol.i guess we should give holmes props for the ali win,which is his only win over an atg i might add

Walcott was champion and Charles was 32.