Can you be considered an ATG when these are your 10 best wins?

[Daddy T]

So top 20 is the cut-off?

Why are you so obsessed with trying to get people to say vitali is an atg? Why isn't saying 'yeah he's not bad one of the best in recent years' good enough for you?

I mean what's going on with that? No doubt you will either not answer or simply reply with a question as is usual for you. But how about just answering something for once?

What win on Vitali's record makes him indisputably an ATG? Come on just name one win that we can point to and 'say yeah you know what he's an atg'. If you can't do that or just answer this with another question, just give up because you aren't going to win the debate by answering questions with questions and talking about him being dominant against bums.

[DreamFighter]

l.ali is not some invincible guy lol.beating him is not some other worldly accomplishment.

not really answering that one, but if you don't mind I'd like to borrow for the dunce list in my signature some time.

im pretty good with english.i didnt know more was defined as better lol.look up the definition.thats a fact.

sadly for you, you brought up the wrong fact, so hey your understanding is worse than you think? You think I say that that because there were more boxers around, they were more skilled? no, that is ****** interpretation.

I suspect you are aware that a much larger pool of boxers means a greater number of good boxers (as well as more of the bad ones and average ones), and you are just being disingenuous for the hell of it now.

[DreamFighter]

the point is that the more opponents become familiar with each other,the easier it is to fight them.this is why guys study film on fighters they havent fought

yeah and JAB also asked you a simple middleweight question about your reasoning here too which you seem to have run away from faster than Vitali from middleweight chris byrd..

[r.burgundy]

This makes no sense. Why does it only get easier for one guy? Don't both guys watch film of each other?

what do you mean the other guy lol. either guy could be the other guy.ali struggled with norton,foreman didnt.so just because somebody had difficulty with somebody else that doesnt give them some elevated position

[r.burgundy]

yeah and JAB also asked you a simple middleweight question about your reasoning here too which you seem to have run away from faster than Vitali from middleweight chris byrd..

what does anything he asked have to do with you lol?i answered all his questions,just like i answered yours
vitali ran away from chris byrd lol.i guess you didnt see the fight

[r.burgundy]

not really answering that one, but if you don't mind I'd like to borrow for the dunce list in my signature some time.



sadly for you, you brought up the wrong fact, so hey your understanding is worse than you think? You think I say that that because there were more boxers around, they were more skilled? no, that is ****** interpretation.

I suspect you are aware that a much larger pool of boxers means a greater number of good boxers (as well as more of the bad ones and average ones), and you are just being disingenuous for the hell of it now.

it wasnt a question lol

what the hell lol.a greater number doesnt mean good or bad,it just means more lol

[CarlosG815]

Lets call it 20 since that's what the IBRO goes by. Does it really matter though? I asked a question based on personal opinion. You've chosen to troll this thread because you don't like that opinion. You're an educated boxing fan, you may rank him 18th. While I may not agree I don't have any serious issues with it like I would the bozo's who rank him top 10 all time. So the question remains....based on his resume do YOU think he's an ATG?

Look at Jab touting a list that he compiled from picking out names he liked from other peoples' lists and now spreading it like it's the definitive list of greatness in the history of the HW division. Your list is a joke, much like everything else pertaining to you.

Everybody is a bozo, yet you have Lennox Lewis ranked #6 on your joke of a list.

Stop pretending that you know logic or reason because you do not. You are legitimately one of the dumbest people on this forum because of the fact that you do not realize how dumb you are. Those are the worst kinds of idiots, because the conversation cannot move forward because you always think you're right.

The only bozo in this thread is the 50 year old overweight ****** who collects disability and unemployment and has several aliases on this site but is commonly known as Jab5239

[r.burgundy]

1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Jack Johnson
4. Larry Holmes
5. Sonny Liston
6. Lennox Lewis
7. George Foreman
8. Mike Tyson
9. Evander Holyfield
10. Rocky Marciano

11. Joe Frazier
12. Harry Wills
13. Jack Dempsey
14. Jim Jeffries
15. Ezzard Charles
17. Sam Langford
18. Wladimir Klitschko
19. Joe Walcott
20. Max Schmeling


Here's a list of 20 heavyweights. Where does Vits fit in resume-wise against this group?

id definitely take vits over marciano,who arguably has the weakest resume of any hw atg,you could easily make case against holmes as well,who's best win is ray mercer

[DreamFighter]

it wasnt a question lol

what the hell lol.a greater number doesnt mean good or bad,it just means more lol

just more bad in your book.

whatever fits your agenda, as with your beating Ali three times is easier than beating 3 bums theory.

[DreamFighter]

what does anything he asked have to do with you lol?i answered all his questions,just like i answered yours
vitali ran away from chris byrd lol.i guess you didnt see the fight

then u shouldnt guess.