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  • #21
    Originally posted by puga View Post
    i know , bad stamina, low volume of punches ,and lazy ....reason why i dont give him any chance but a puncher's chance....i dont agree with what "will canelo do " vs floyd ..i think thats what he should do to increase his chances of landing his best shot ... but i think what he will do is try to outbox floyd , i think he already thinks he can box floyd....which is a HUGE mistake ....i do believ he believs his own hype ...
    i am thinking this more and more as the time gets closer, he wants to outdo floyd at what floyd likes, you see canelo at times in fights try to imulate mayweather rolling and dipping but if i was him i would come in heavy as hell and lean on floyd all night wailing away lol

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    • #22
      Originally posted by tdub2222 View Post
      i am thinking this more and more as the time gets closer, he wants to outdo floyd at what floyd likes, you see canelo at times in fights try to imulate mayweather rolling and dipping but if i was him i would come in heavy as hell and lean on floyd all night wailing away lol
      canelo tried to show he has good defense (in the trout fight ) and he did good but he really was'nt doing anything else but that(no offense while on the defense and no defense while on the offense).. canelo (to me atleast )was showing good defense and no offnse and vice versa ...it's either cold or hot and not in the middle but this boy is so convinced he has it all ...

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      • #23
        Originally posted by puga View Post
        if hoya was serious about it , he wouldnt have said this ...i like duran's version of "key's to victory better; " canelo has to maul floyd" ....
        I think Duran's version is horrible advice. You're not gonna maul a defensive master with great footwork.

        I think Oscar's advice about the job is good, but Canelo doesn't have a great jab. So using the jab won't get him far. And he's not gonna develop one within the next month. But hey, he's gotta do something.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
          I think Duran's version is horrible advice. You're not gonna maul a defensive master with great footwork.

          I think Oscar's advice about the job is good, but Canelo doesn't have a great jab. So using the jab won't get him far. And he's not gonna develop one within the next month. But hey, he's gotta do something.
          no it aint if you were duran ...i think fighters see fights as if they are the ones fighting the man ... hoya's version of "having a good jab is too broad ....floyd is more complex than that to beat him ..for canelos's quality and personalty , he is \better off following duran's advice than hoya's .... ....

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          • #25
            Originally posted by puga View Post
            no it aint if you were duran ...i think fighters see fights as if they are the ones fighting the man ... hoya's version of "having a good jab is too broad ....floyd is more complex than that to beat him ..for canelos's quality and personalty , he is \better off following duran's advice than hoya's .... ....
            Size and strength is Canelos advantage , he should use it .

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            • #26
              I think Oscar would of had a better chance at beating Floyd without Roach in his corner that night. Oscar looked his best when Floyd Sr was his trainer. But of course Big Floyd wouldn't train anyone to beat Lil Floyd.

              Canelo needs to take both Oscar and Duran's advice. He has to make it a rugged fight and ugly. He can't let Floyd fight at his pace. He needs to jab his way in and attack the body and not worry about Floyd's head in the early rounds. Thinking he will out box Floyd is down right ignorant. He has to make it a street fight and force Floyd to stay flatfooted. If he can do that, he will force that dragon to sprout his wings and breath fire as Bro ****m said. You will see a very entertaining fight at that point. That is the only style Canelo can bring in the ring that night to have a chance of winning. That will force Floyd to think more offensively to keep Canelo off of him. Hopefully for Canelo, that will leave some openings in the exchanges to catch him with something big.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Post
                Too bad canelo doesn't have a good enough jab for it to be a threat. There's no reason for canelo to base a strategy around something he's simply not good at. That's how u lose fights.
                If Oscar says that the jab is the key to beat Floyd, he's saying (in fact) precisely why Canelo will loose the fight...
                In the Trout fight, Canelo landed only 28 jabs (out of 207 thrown) -- 14%.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by jvsnypes View Post
                  I think Oscar would of had a better chance at beating Floyd without Roach in his corner that night. Oscar looked his best when Floyd Sr was his trainer. But of course Big Floyd wouldn't train anyone to beat Lil Floyd.

                  Canelo needs to take both Oscar and Duran's advice. He has to make it a rugged fight and ugly. He can't let Floyd fight at his pace. He needs to jab his way in and attack the body and not worry about Floyd's head in the early rounds. Thinking he will out box Floyd is down right ignorant. He has to make it a street fight and force Floyd to stay flatfooted. If he can do that, he will force that dragon to sprout his wings and breath fire as Bro ****m said. You will see a very entertaining fight at that point. That is the only style Canelo can bring in the ring that night to have a chance of winning. That will force Floyd to think more offensively to keep Canelo off of him. Hopefully for Canelo, that will leave some openings in the exchanges to catch him with something big.
                  ......and there it is.......

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by puga View Post
                    no it aint if you were duran ...i think fighters see fights as if they are the ones fighting the man ... hoya's version of "having a good jab is too broad ....floyd is more complex than that to beat him ..for canelos's quality and personalty , he is \better off following duran's advice than hoya's .... ....
                    Did Duran maul Leonard? And is Leonard as good of a defensive master as Floyd?

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                    • #30
                      the jab is the (SECRET WEAPON). just saying.

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