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  • #91
    Originally posted by keyz3r0 View Post
    W00t Finally got my Mayweather Tickets in the Mail and I got the Program ..

    So here is who's fighting September 14... Erislandy Lara vs. Austin Trout (Light Middelweight) NO CHAMPIONSHIP BELT // Danny Garcia vs. Lucas Matthysse (Light Welterweight) WBC,WBA, & Ring Magazine Light Welterweight Belts // Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Canelo Alvarez (Light Middleweight) WBC,WBA, Ring Magazine Light Middleweight

    So there you guys go.. You heard it here first

    [/QUOTE]awesome dude, thanks.... Didn't know about trout vs Lara, should be good..

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    • #92
      Originally posted by BajanXLegend View Post
      None of That is facts, you must be pinoy.

      1. Floyd has not been running from pacquiao = Bob arum is too greedy.
      2. Floyd vs Pac wouldnt beat Floyd Vs Canelo.
      3. Floyd will fight Pacqioa if he deals with Schiefer and Elibe.

      50 cent was never Mayweathers best friend, and he made that comment post friendship, to hurt and embarrass Floyd over twitter. 50cent was but hurt because Floyd didn't want to do business with him.

      i call your opinions Pinoy Facts GTFO!
      50 cent is nothing but scum, he won't make it anywhere as promoter. The ONLY reason he had interst in boxing was cause he thought he could Don King Floyd, and use his name for promotional status... 50 cent get lost, go bak to rappin, if u still got anything left, which I doubt

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      • #93
        Originally posted by turnedup View Post
        Really....you sure about that? LMAO...i'm a fan of none of these guys but i've seen it clearly. Ya'll changed the talk when Floyd agreed to fight so you can say oh he stepped up and still many of ya'll still call him a hype job. Stop trying to be in denial. Either way I could give two shhhts.
        I read several reports which said that the Mayweather camp's original demand was for Alvarez to weigh 147, then 150, and they settled at 152, below which Alvarez would not go. It was speculated that the fight was made because Showtime pressure demanded a fight with a top opponent.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by SugarAnt05 View Post
          I thought they couldnt fight until bob finished the outdoor stadium. When is that suppose to be up again?
          Again with the crappy lies. The temporary stadium had nothing to do with Arum other than that MGM wanted the first fight in it to be the Pacquiao-Mayweather one. Arum said that it would hold more and allow cheaper seats for people who normally could not afford such a fight. MGM showed the blueprints to Arum and he made a statement about it. Arum also said that MannyP could NOT fight on May 5th because he bone-deep eye cut took 6 months to heal and the earliest the doctors said Pacquiao would be allowed to train was April. They didn't build the temp stadium because it was obvious that Mayweather wasn't going to fight; so they proceeded with their more permanent plans.

          The temp stadium was the idea of MGM International, and was to be erected on a 10 acre plot of land that MGM owned. They are presently erecting a new stadium which is ongoing right now. It's has 20,000 seats, is on the Strip and is being built by AEG the world-famous sport's arena builders. It's been in the works for the past 6 years.

          So put that in your ****** mouth and swallow it without water.

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          • #95
            Am I the only one who has noticed that the only time Pacquaio gets any media buzz now is when he talks about Mayweather. Pac has a fight coming up with Brandon Rios in October and nobody is talking about it. However, as soon as he mentions Mayweather's name ......

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            • #96
              Originally posted by big_james10 View Post
              Am I the only one who has noticed that the only time Pacquaio gets any media buzz now is when he talks about Mayweather. Pac has a fight coming up with Brandon Rios in October and nobody is talking about it. However, as soon as he mentions Mayweather's name ......
              this guy must be living in a cave or something.



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              • #97
                Originally posted by HBK View Post
                who is pac?

                Why would Mayweather be afraid of has-beens?
                Cause he will get no credit fighting has-beens. At least that the excuse OF PAC FANS after pac loses will be. Past primed is another i know will come out.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by SugarAnt05 View Post
                  Those are some crazy percentages. So essentially he makes more from fighting bradley, marquez , and bam than taking a flat 40 million from mayweathert? Also, if he won, which imo he could have won(and HE even laughed at the fact that mayweather could beat him on ESPN when he was being interviewed by Skip Bayless and stephen smith) wouldnt he command a larger share of the revenues in the rematch? You seem to know all the percentages and you're right, pac woulda walked away from a lot of money had he taken the flat offer, no denying that. But...would he walk away with more money than he's making with bradley, marquez, rios..etc?
                  I'm glad you agree with the points of my post. Yes the percentages are crazy as you say but they are accurate to within say, a single percentage point, and the information comes both from direct quotes from those involved, as well as internet research.

                  However i wouldn't be surprised if a bit of accounting manipulation would reduce these a bit.

                  Here are a few figures which are written in stone. PPV Cable people take from 50-55% of the PPV sale take, no matter whom nor what. That's their long established cut. The IRS take is around 39% and local taxes and etc take up another 3-4%. Arum said that the new tax bite of about 42% was what caused MannyP to decide not to fight in the US again. Local taxes for arena seats are about $7 each. When promoters wish to boost up their PR crap, they pay the seat tax on the unoccupied seats and can then boast of being "SOLD OUT".

                  When MannyP showed how much he really wanted Roach to train him, The Roach stuck him for a full 10% at a time when he was vulnerable. I've never liked Roach ever since. A trainer of a top earning fighter may be paid anything from 3% to 10%. The Roach said he wouldn't take a cent less. And that's what Pacquaio accepted. The cut-man gets from 1-3%. Then there are the other team members, camp, hotels, transport etc. although the promoter pays for some of that usually. The Promoter share is 27% and any good promoter really earns his money, because without him there wouldn't be a single cup of coffee sold at the fight-if it took place.

                  Yes, he'll make a lot more from his Rios fight than he would have from that $40 mill Mayweather fight. Probably about 3 times as much. MannyP is quaranteed, as I have read many times, about $20-25 mill minimum from each fight, and if the PPV is good it can be a lot more. He gets about 85% of the (50% of the) PPV, or he used to a year or so ago. His guarantee might be a bit less now after the KO loss, I don't know. Arum usually announces a "guarantee" of about $7-8 mill which I think is purely for Commission purposes, because they demand that the guarantee amount must be paid to the fighter immediately after the fight.

                  I believe that whoever he fights it will be still a big attraction because of his global celebrity reputation. He signed a few major endorsements AFTER his KO loss to Marquez. He's the most popular figure in 2/3rds of the world next to the Creator. Arum has had a lot to do with marketing him which resulting in his global stature. I know that he encouraged him in his political ambitions, and actually went to the Philippines to support him and make speeches for him. At least so it was reported on this site-if my memory is correct. I'm pretty sure he got a lot if advice over the years from Arum, who would naturally be intrigued by Pacquiao's background and story.

                  I may have made a few errors and I'm sure there's a lot more that I don't know, because boxing has the most labyrinthine machinations leading up to a fight that would make Machiavelli look like a kid in kindergarten. And sorry it's so long.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by SugarAnt05 View Post
                    Those are some crazy percentages. So essentially he makes more from fighting bradley, marquez , and bam than taking a flat 40 million from mayweathert? Also, if he won, which imo he could have won(and HE even laughed at the fact that mayweather could beat him on ESPN when he was being interviewed by Skip Bayless and stephen smith) wouldnt he command a larger share of the revenues in the rematch? You seem to know all the percentages and you're right, pac woulda walked away from a lot of money had he taken the flat offer, no denying that. But...would he walk away with more money than he's making with bradley, marquez, rios..etc?
                    I forgot to say that even if Pacquiao won and would make a lot more money in a return, there's no guarantee that Mayweather would agree to a bigger amount,, nor even that he's agree to fight him a return.

                    Mayweather has consistently shown an unreliability, even when it might be to his benefit.

                    He tells lies, and makes outrageous claims and statements which are impossible to give any credence to, even in a world in which this sort of thing is commonplace . Let's face it, he's shown a very unstable personality.

                    How true do you think his claim to have received the world's top guarantee of $32 mill for the Cotto fight is...... claiming to have beaten the record of a genuine $31 mill Tyson guarantee. Especially when we all knew that the guarantee was coming from "Mayweather Promotions"..... i suspect that his guarantee of $32 mill from Showtime may be made up partly (maybe 50-50) from Showtime and Mayweather Promotions. Just a speculation, we'd never hear the truth anyway.

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                    • The truth is floyd does not have the balls to fight pacquiao, co'z he use different type of excuses just to avoid the fight....

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