Why didn't David Price heed Lennox Lewis's advice?

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  • ukboxingfan1981
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    #21
    Originally posted by HooksInYou
    I think he went into the ring with the idea of fighting a patient disciplined fight, but somewhere along the line, probably in the 2nd round, he just yearned for this fight to be over and he pushed for the quick KO.
    I'm not sure about this. I'm certain this would be how LL would of advised him. Be patient, sit behind the jab and break thompson down. Only Pricey seemed to throw almost every punch with full power. Not sure if he got carried away after the knockdown or he believed he could take thompson out quickly.

    Originally posted by HooksInYou
    Thompson deserves credit though. He wore Price down with those body shots. He beat a man with a reach, height, power, and 12-year age advantage twice now.
    Agreed, he executed well and, despite the knockdown, didn't appear to be in too much trouble.

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    • Clegg
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      #22
      People are talking about him not following the gameplan and not boxing safely behind his jab, but it's a lot easier said than done. I don't think he has the skillset to keep Thompson on the end of his jab for 12 rounds. There was never a point in either fight, even for 30 seconds, when he seemed to be able to control the fight with his jab. If Thompson stood back, Price wasn't able to land anything. When Thompson came forward, Price wasn't able to keep him at range with his jab and that's part of why he opened up more.

      People are talking as if he is clearly better than Thompson but just made some bad choices but the reality is that over the 2 fights the only clear advantage he had was power, not skill, regardless of whether or not he tried to fight smart.

      Lewis was a great fighter but that doesn't make him a great trainer or even a decent one. He may very well recognise that Price needed to make changes and use his brain a bit more, but that doesn't mean he's capable of teaching him how to do it, especially if given only 3 weeks.

      A lot of people are criticising Price for his tactics but his main problems were his stamina, his lack of experience, and that he just isn't as good a fighter as Thompson. Your trainer can't prepare you for everything and eventually fighters find themselves in difficult situations where they either sink or swim. At some point last night Price realised 1) that he could hit and hurt Thompson 2) that he wasn't going to be able to work behind the jab for 12 rounds without taking a lot of good punches and probably gassing.

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      • tyotfo
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        #23
        Originally posted by Hitman932
        You're a stiff idiot for rationalizing the stiff idiot winning a fight he was clearly never cut out for.

        Offering up 3-1 odds on Price winning. LMAO. You Brits are so blinded by nationality that you couldn't make a fair judgement of one of your fighters if you lives depended on it.
        He knocked him down! Is it that far fetched that he could have won?

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        • tyotfo
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          #24
          This was a really poor version of Thompson. 41, been ko'd twice, out of shape, injuries etc. A 35 year old Thompson would have decapitated Price.

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          • LacedUp
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            #25
            Maybe TT is just better than most people thought. In all fairness, his best win is probably Price I, but he's only lost to Wlad other than that.

            An maybe Price is just not cut out for it. Maybe he is. We will have to see. One thing is for sure, he needs to dedicate his life to Boxing if he wants to progress beyond domestic level. That means getting a trainer with pro experience, whether that's Lennox Lewis or someone else that's fine, but he needs to leave Franny. Gallagher is a good trainer, so are the ingles and McCracken is a damn excellent one. He should also leave Maloney as soon as possible.

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            • G22
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              #26
              There seems to be alot of finger pointing as to whos fault it is but it comes down to Thompson was just a better fighter and he proved it in both fights.

              Maloney was suggesting Lewis should have not been in camp but there is no man on the planet better placed to give 1st hand advice to Price after his first loss but Lennox cant implement changes in 3 weeks. Manny Ste***** first fight with Wvladimir resulted in a KO loss but it wasnt a reflection on the trainer. These things take time. I think Maloney was abit emotional as evidenced by his breakdown post fight, he cant seriously pin point Lennox as the failing if hes being honest with himself.

              Thompson deserves some praise because whilst everyones trying to diagnose what went wrong with David, how about its what Thompson did right. He walked Price down even after walking onto that huge right in round 2. He deserves respect for pulling himself up and then outlasting his younger opponent.

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                #27
                Originally posted by ukboxingfan1981
                Are you talking to me? No-one here has suggested he should of won or has tried to rationalize him losing. And I haven't offered any odds on anyone? I didnt think Yoz was from the UK?

                Oh and your way off base with the fair judgement comment, David Price stopped being overated by the media here after the first thompson fight. Sure, some gave him a chance in the rematch but personally (and talking as a brit) I'm not surprised by the result at all.
                I was not talking to you. I was talking to the thread starter who clearly referred to Price as a big stiff idiot when he should have been criticizing himself for putting faith in such a **** fighter.

                I am not off base at all about Brits not making a fair judgement and you saying the media wrote him off after the first fight and only some gave him a chance is a bald faced lie.

                Fact of the matter is that Price was a 3.5-1 favorite in this fight because Brits themselves bet 4 times as much money on Price as they did on Thompson. Those aren't narrow odds at all. Price was an overwhelming favorite because of biased British fans refusal to bet with their brains.

                They even had a bookie on the Boxnation broadcast who said almost every bet he took was on Price and British bettors had very little faith in Thompson pulling the repeat.

                So knock it off with this bull**** revisionist history.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Hitman932
                  I was not talking to you. I was talking to the thread starter who clearly referred to Price as a big stiff idiot when he should have been criticizing himself for putting faith in such a **** fighter.

                  I am not off base at all about Brits not making a fair judgement and you saying the media wrote him off after the first fight and only some gave him a chance is a bald faced lie.

                  Fact of the matter is that Price was a 3.5-1 favorite in this fight because Brits themselves bet 4 times as much money on Price as they did on Thompson. Those aren't narrow odds at all. Price was an overwhelming favorite because of biased British fans refusal to bet with their brains.

                  They even had a bookie on the Boxnation broadcast who said almost every bet he took was on Price and British bettors had very little faith in Thompson pulling the repeat.

                  So knock it off with this bull**** revisionist history.
                  As someone above said: And this is coming from a guy coming from the land of Deontay Wilder, Seth Mitchell etc..

                  And the guy who claimed in every thread that Malignaggi would embarrass Khan - same you did with every other Khan opponent.

                  So please, spare us your Brit hate. It's pretty pathetic. Go troll somewhere else.

                  If you had known anything about Brits, you'd know that no one bets against their own team.

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                  • purecyse
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                    #29
                    Price was an overwhelming favorite because of biased British fans refusal to bet with their brains.
                    If you had known anything about Brits, you'd know that no one bets against their own team.
                    So...Hitman932 was right.

                    Yes, Wilder and Mitchell come for this "land" but the people view things differently.

                    They have already looked shaky. If I was betting with my brain, there is NO way I put money down on Wilder or Mitchell. He was just saying that that's what the "Brits" should have done with Price.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Hitman932
                      I was not talking to you. I was talking to the thread starter who clearly referred to Price as a big stiff idiot when he should have been criticizing himself for putting faith in such a **** fighter.

                      I am not off base at all about Brits not making a fair judgement and you saying the media wrote him off after the first fight and only some gave him a chance is a bald faced lie.

                      Fact of the matter is that Price was a 3.5-1 favorite in this fight because Brits themselves bet 4 times as much money on Price as they did on Thompson. Those aren't narrow odds at all. Price was an overwhelming favorite because of biased British fans refusal to bet with their brains.

                      They even had a bookie on the Boxnation broadcast who said almost every bet he took was on Price and British bettors had very little faith in Thompson pulling the repeat.

                      So knock it off with this bull**** revisionist history.
                      Who are you talking to you butthurt faaggot?

                      I have yet to see a Brit on here who gave a single solitary *** about Price. Most of the people who bet were probably dumb scousers/casual fans. Even still, you'd think Price would be able to beat a 41 Thompson on the second attempt. I thought he probably would but I didn't even care enough to watch the fight live let alone bet on it.

                      Always said Price would be KO'd eventually since the start of his career.

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