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  • Weebler I
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    #21
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    You didn't say compared to Canelo you said Bradley is a runner like Mayweather.

    Neither are "runners" but Mayweather certainly moves a lot more effectively than Bradley when he wants to. Bradley's movement isn't great at all.
    They are runners. Bradley comes inside more but they are both backfoot fighters who ideally like to make full use of the ring. Bradley has actually looked the more mobile fighter over his last 3-4 fights of the two.

    Bradley's backfoot isn't exceptional at all. Bradley isn't exceptional at anything.

    And Bradley tried to come foward against Pacquaio. When it inevitabley didn't work and wasn't working he tried something else.
    After which he virtually won every round, same against Provodnikov after getting dropped early. How long do you think he's going to come forward sparring Alvarez? be serious now.

    I also don't know how you think Bradley survives as a world class fighter without being exceptional at anything.

    Like I said Bradley is exceptional on the backfoot, it's only when he comes forward he looks vulnerable, chasing him around the ring would be good practice for Alvarez because that's what he's going to be doing against Mayweather.

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    • dc3383
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      #22
      Originally posted by The Weebler II
      Alvarez doesn't move, he's a static fighter. Everyone has legs compared to him. The challenge for Canelo is to adapt his immobile style to put pressure on.



      He'll run as soon as he's hit hard, ask Manny Pacquiao. Bradley's an exceptionally good backfoot fighter when he fights that way.
      So he's supposed to keep getting hit does that sound smart

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        #23
        Originally posted by dc3383
        So he's supposed to keep getting hit does that sound smart
        No, I think he should box in the way that suits his strengths. Bradley makes the mistake of thinking he can trade with his opponents. Imo he could have beaten Pacquiao if he had moved around the ring from the outset.

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          #24
          orlando cruz...

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          • KickAzz
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            #25


            the ginger should spar with this guy for Cherrypicker

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            • IronDanHamza
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              #26
              Originally posted by The Weebler II
              They are runners. Bradley comes inside more but they are both backfoot fighters who ideally like to make full use of the ring. Bradley has actually looked the more mobile fighter over his last 3-4 fights of the two.
              Bradley really isn't a backfoot fighter at all. How many fighters has Bradley fought the entirety of a fight on the backfoot?

              You said 4 fights. Let's look at his last 4 fights.

              Provodkiov, came out aggressively, got hurt and boxed as long as he could or his boxing ability would let him.

              Pacquaio, tried to both box and brawl then when he couldn't handle Pacquaio's power and realised he didn't have the ability to outbox him, went into survival mode for the most part.

              Casamayor - Barely took a single step backward.

              Alexander - Barely took a single step backward.



              Originally posted by The Weebler II
              After which he virtually won every round, same against Provodnikov after getting dropped early. How long do you think he's going to come forward sparring Alvarez? be serious now.
              He will come forward as much as he can because that's his style then if he were to get hurt he would try and box to the best of his ability which is limited.

              Originally posted by The Weebler II
              I also don't know how you think Bradley survives as a world class fighter without being exceptional at anything.

              Like I said Bradley is exceptional on the backfoot, it's only when he comes forward he looks vulnerable, chasing him around the ring would be good practice for Alvarez because that's what he's going to be doing against Mayweather.
              He survives as a world class fighter because he's good in every area with great heart and stamina. Anyone with these traits will do well in Boxing.

              He's not exceptional on the backfoot. If he was exceptional on the back foot he wouldn't have been in the problems he's been in.

              Like I said, he's probably come forward more in his career as opposed to going backward.

              Even when he "runs" his footwork or his back foot ability doesn't resemble Mayweather's in any way.

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                #27
                Originally posted by The Weebler II
                No, I think he should box in the way that suits his strengths. Bradley makes the mistake of thinking he can trade with his opponents. Imo he could have beaten Pacquiao if he had moved around the ring from the outset.
                False.

                When it was clear he couldn't handle ****ing with Pacquaio he tried to box.

                He doesn't have the boxing ability to outbox Pacquaio. He's not an overly good boxer.

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                • dc3383
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by The Weebler II
                  No, I think he should box in the way that suits his strengths. Bradley makes the mistake of thinking he can trade with his opponents. Imo he could have beaten Pacquiao if he had moved around the ring from the outset.
                  Honestly he couldn't have done anything to have have actually beat Manny its a difference in skill level

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    Bradley really isn't a backfoot fighter at all. How many fighters has Bradley fought the entirety of a fight on the backfoot?

                    You said 4 fights. Let's look at his last 4 fights.

                    Provodkiov, came out aggressively, got hurt and boxed as long as he could or his boxing ability would let him.

                    Pacquaio, tried to both box and brawl then when he couldn't handle Pacquaio's power and realised he didn't have the ability to outbox him, went into survival mode for the most part.
                    He boxed both Provodnikov on the backfoot for most of the fight and was given the decision and he won the rounds he boxed against Pacquiao on the backfoot. He is a very good mobile backfoot fighter.

                    Sure, he will stand toe to toe and get inside with an Alexander who can't hurt him but Tim is far more effective when he uses the ring.

                    Floyd's last 4 fights have been against the likes of Ortiz and Mosley where he walked towards them - he won't be doing that against Canelo, he will run like he did from the plodding Guerrero.

                    He will come forward as much as he can because that's his style then if he were to get hurt he would try and box to the best of his ability which is limited.
                    I don't agree. He is a very good boxer. He's on many people's PFP lists for a reason.

                    He's not exceptional on the backfoot. If he was exceptional on the back foot he wouldn't have been in the problems he's been in.
                    The problems he has gotten into have been when he has decided to trade or stay too long on the inside - i.e. when he doesn't box on the backfoot.

                    When he sticks to a plan of boxing, he is very difficult to get to.

                    Even when he "runs" his footwork or his back foot ability doesn't resemble Mayweather's in any way.
                    Same difference IDH. Bradley's movement around the ring would provide good foil for Mayweather's proposed gameplan - which we both know will be to run and avoid getting caught against the ropes.

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                    • Weebler I
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by dc3383
                      Honestly he couldn't have done anything to have have actually beat Manny its a difference in skill level
                      I disagree, Pacquiao looked poor-ish against Mosley when Shane got on his bike and he lost those late rounds against Bradley. If Tim had boxed that way from the start he might have merited the decision. I'd pick Tim in a rematch with Pacquiao (assuming Ruslan hasn't scrambled his brain).
                      Last edited by Weebler I; 07-04-2013, 05:25 PM.

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