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  • #31
    Originally posted by SoggyLungs View Post
    ggg stops barker...martinez landed ONE barely clean right hook and it dropped barker easy..ggg would finish off barker MUCH quicker than martinez did..

    Different types of power plus Barker was tired and had eaten a lot of shots before hand especially the few rounds before building upto the K.O

    That shot popped his eardrum.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
      I know people now expect GGG kills everyone in a few rounds at the most but I strongly feel the guy who gives GGG the most problems is Darren Barker.

      Similar to the Rosado fight which I must say was a lot more competitive than I originally fought.

      GGG has flaws like every other fighter & I think hes very limited despite his pedigree though that isn't to say hes not good and doesn't have a hugely effective style.

      The problem is these guys either stand right in front of him or they're already broken mentally if not they are the second they get hit. You'll notice when he hits them & there balance goes, that isn't his power that is his opposition panicking. **** scared of him.

      Barker has a nice crisp right hand. He'd find a home for that all night.

      I don't think GGGs footworks bad by any means I just don't like how he has ZERO head movement. I'm amazed nobody has picked up on how open he is for the uppercut - Rosado pulled the trigger and I think he certainly got GGG's respect a few times and GGG started backing up in straight lines.

      Barker has all the tools to make it competitive and early on I think he makes GGG look very plain.
      Hes rangey and uses his length very well, good speed, decent power to make you think twice about charging in. Hes got a good boxing brain.
      He is leagues ahead of Murray, Macklin etc

      Darren Barker created the blueprint on how to beat Sergio Martinez, he will create the blueprint on how to beat GGG!
      This is from the OP of your last thread:

      http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=601972

      Originally posted by dan_cov
      Lets face it he is the bigger, faster guy. Hes better than anybody GGG has fought by a mile and hits a lot harder. Macklin can go 12 no sweat. Hes been in there with the best!

      I always wonder with a guy like GGG if there is a plan B

      It wasn't long back Macklin pasted Felix Sturm & gave Sergio who was still near his peak a very tough fight.

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      • #33
        Barker uses his reach very well, I feel he can give GGG a real tough fight. Hes a solid technician who works behind the jab.

        The guys who have hit GGG have stood right in front of him.

        If Barker stays off the ropes he will do very well
        Barker would not do a Rosado and return fire, he'll cover up and move off and stick him back behind the jab.

        Don't get me wrong I think GGG is very talented, he looks a beast but there is flaws/traits there to be taken advantage of and I believe Barker has what it takes probably not too win but give it a damn good go.

        Jab, speed, footwork, defensive awareness, ring I.Q, enough pop to command respect and the brain to stay off the ropes and not fight fire with fire. You do not stand in front of a guy like this trading hooks, he will put to bed in an instant.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
          I know people now expect GGG kills everyone in a few rounds at the most but I strongly feel the guy who gives GGG the most problems is Darren Barker.

          Similar to the Rosado fight which I must say was a lot more competitive than I originally fought.

          GGG has flaws like every other fighter & I think hes very limited despite his pedigree though that isn't to say hes not good and doesn't have a hugely effective style.

          The problem is these guys either stand right in front of him or they're already broken mentally if not they are the second they get hit. You'll notice when he hits them & there balance goes, that isn't his power that is his opposition panicking. **** scared of him.

          Barker has a nice crisp right hand. He'd find a home for that all night.

          I don't think GGGs footworks bad by any means I just don't like how he has ZERO head movement. I'm amazed nobody has picked up on how open he is for the uppercut - Rosado pulled the trigger and I think he certainly got GGG's respect a few times and GGG started backing up in straight lines.

          Barker has all the tools to make it competitive and early on I think he makes GGG look very plain.
          Hes rangey and uses his length very well, good speed, decent power to make you think twice about charging in. Hes got a good boxing brain.
          He is leagues ahead of Murray, Macklin etc

          Darren Barker created the blueprint on how to beat Sergio Martinez, he will create the blueprint on how to beat GGG!
          Dan I like you but you're not right on this one. Now you're calling Macklin a euro level fighter or something like that yet just a couple days before last Saturday you thought Macklin had a good chance and tools to beat GGG

          http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=601972

          Come on..

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          • #35
            Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
            I know people now expect GGG kills everyone in a few rounds at the most but I strongly feel the guy who gives GGG the most problems is Darren Barker.

            Similar to the Rosado fight which I must say was a lot more competitive than I originally fought.

            GGG has flaws like every other fighter & I think hes very limited despite his pedigree though that isn't to say hes not good and doesn't have a hugely effective style.

            The problem is these guys either stand right in front of him or they're already broken mentally if not they are the second they get hit. You'll notice when he hits them & there balance goes, that isn't his power that is his opposition panicking. **** scared of him.

            Barker has a nice crisp right hand. He'd find a home for that all night.

            I don't think GGGs footworks bad by any means I just don't like how he has ZERO head movement. I'm amazed nobody has picked up on how open he is for the uppercut - Rosado pulled the trigger and I think he certainly got GGG's respect a few times and GGG started backing up in straight lines.

            Barker has all the tools to make it competitive and early on I think he makes GGG look very plain.
            Hes rangey and uses his length very well, good speed, decent power to make you think twice about charging in. Hes got a good boxing brain.
            He is leagues ahead of Murray, Macklin etc

            Darren Barker created the blueprint on how to beat Sergio Martinez, he will create the blueprint on how to beat GGG!



            Barker would get wrecked

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            • #36
              Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
              This is from the OP of your last thread:

              http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=601972

              I picked GGG to win and within 6 that thread was just some food for fought and that fight changed absolutely nothing. As impressive as GGG looks he is still hugely untested.

              Macklin is a tough guy, a legit middleweight and it was impressive how easily he walked through Macklin don't get me wrong but lets not go overboard. Macks a decent guy but he isn't exactly a world beater.
              Hes a solid Euro level fighter/bordering world level. Did I think GGG would walk right through him like he was nothing? No, but it didn't really come as a huge shock to me.

              I'm not saying GGG hasn't the potential to be great I just think the hype is a tad premature and I feel Barker is the only fighter out there who gives this guy a good run for his money. I'm not sure if that says more for how good GGG is or how much the division sucks right now tbh

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              • #37
                Boxing needs a new superstar, GGG might be it.

                I never said Macklin would win I was more questioning if anybody gave him a shot and in fairness I think everyone expected a little more resistance. GGG did what he had to and won impressively.

                I just feel hes so untested and I'm not sure there is a plan B.

                Don't take this the wrong way and I am not comparing the two as such but anybody remember the crazy hype David Lemieux was getting? Another middleweight who was massively untested, knocking everyone out, he took a marginal step up against was it Rubio? He had no plan B and got iced.

                Who was the one before him? Short, stocky guy who had about 20 first round knockouts and got mopped the minute he got hit back by some journeyman.

                I'm not saying GGG isn't better than these guys but outside of his power, his ability to cut a ring off and such I personally haven't seen an awful lot and whilst that should be credit to him being good it is unquestionably a lot to do with the poor competition hes faced for most part. The jury is still out, at least it should be.

                We haven't seen him have to go through any adversity.
                Last edited by dan_cov; 07-02-2013, 12:29 PM.

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                • #38
                  Barker would get stopped too but it would take a bit longer than 3 rounds, Njam or whatever his name is would be a durable fight for GGG and Geale would be a testing style but I still would not pick anyone over GGG at the moment at 160 apart from Chavez jr.

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                  • #39
                    I like Barker but he's looked vulnerable in a few fights before the Martinez fight.

                    Belghechem looked like he had him in trouble and he was a pretty moderate fighter. I think it's stamina issues more than poor punch resistance I'd imagine.

                    That shot that took him out vs Martinez was a bit of a strange. I've burst my eardrum playing football; it hurt but I don't think it'd be enough to stop a fighter in a world title fight. Dazza must have been exhausted more than anything. Didn't Froch burst his eardrum vs Glen Johnson?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
                      Boxing needs a new superstar, GGG might be it.

                      I never said Macklin would win I was more questioning if anybody gave him a shot and in fairness I think everyone expected a little more resistance. GGG did what he had to and won impressively.

                      I just feel hes so untested and I'm not sure there is a plan B.

                      Don't take this the wrong way and I am not comparing the two as such but anybody remember the crazy hype David Lemieux was getting? Another middleweight who was massively untested, knocking everyone out, he took a marginal step up against was it Rubio? He had no plan B and got iced.

                      Who was the one before him? Short, stocky guy who had about 20 first round knockouts and got mopped the minute he got hit back by some journeyman.

                      I'm not saying GGG isn't better than these guys but outside of his power, his ability to cut a ring off and such I personally haven't seen an awful lot and whilst that should be credit to him being good it is unquestionably a lot to do with the poor competition hes faced for most part. The jury is still out, at least it should be.

                      We haven't seen him have to go through any adversity.
                      I didn't expect more resistance.

                      I would have been very shocked if Macklin saw the second half of the fight.

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